Sam Peter vs The Fringe contenders of the 1990s

[r.burgundy]

Sometimes I have to wonder if you've even seen the fighters that you criticize with such convinction.

Ruddock's unorthodox uppercut would work extremely well on Peter, who seems to be most suspectible to the punch, see the McCline and the recent Klitschko fight. This is a punch he managed to tag Tyson with, and even a diminished Tyson has far better defense than Peter. Ruddock was washed up at the time he faced Morrison, let's see how Peter does from this point onwards before bringing up Ruddock's career post-Tyson.



Witherspoon did not only have the power to keep Peter off, he had the power to knock him clean out. His overhand right, "the Can Opener", was a powerful punch, as his 38 KO victims can testify to.



Regardless, he doesn't need the power to completely outbox the slow and sloppy Peter as Eddie Chambers showed.

sorry but ruddocks unorthodox uppercut or witherspoons can opener never ko'd anybody with a good chin and barely anybody of note

and i havent really seen peter get hit with overhand rights and eddie chambers is actually slick

theres no need in acting like peter has no chance against ruddock or witherspoon.those guys were solid contenders just like sam and they all had plenty flaws as fighters

[TheGreatA]

[r.burgundy]

uppercut,cross,and a hook.i still dont see your point by posting that

young,healthy very prime ruddock got damn near decapitated by an ancient bonecrusher smith


and healthy prime tim witherspoon was tko'd in 1 round by a getting ancient bonecrusher smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rN8jL3ylPU

and please have the decency not to say bonecrusher was the greatest blah blah blah,etc etc.he was a crude brawler just like peter

there is no doubt sam peter would have a good shot at stopping both razor,and tim

[TheGreatA]

Bonecrusher was a bigger puncher than Peter and he was beaten by both Witherspoon and Ruddock. He also had a very solid chin, but Ruddock knocked him out. Witherspoon said that he plain and simple took a dive against Smith in the rematch because of problems with Don King, and whether you believe it or not it tells a lot about the state of mind he was in going into that fight.

Peter is rather terrible and I'm surprised that you don't see it. I'm not saying the likes of Ruddock, Smith, even Witherspoon are flawless fighters, but their records and ability rate well above Peter's. Peter's only true display of one punch knockout power was over the glass jawed, washed up Jeremy Williams. Other than that he's just a clubber, and a very slow and sloppy one at that. The rabbit punch is his best punch.

[r.burgundy]

Bonecrusher was a bigger puncher than Peter and he was beaten by both Witherspoon and Ruddock. He also had a very solid chin, but Ruddock knocked him out. Witherspoon said that he plain and simple took a dive against Smith in the rematch because of problems with Don King, and whether you believe it or not it tells a lot about the state of mind he was in going into that fight.

Peter is rather terrible and I'm surprised that you don't see it. I'm not saying the likes of Ruddock, Smith, even Witherspoon are flawless fighters, but their records and ability rate well above Peter's. Peter's only true display of one punch knockout power was over the glass jawed, washed up Jeremy Williams. Other than that he's just a clubber, and a very slow and sloppy one at that. The rabbit punch is his best punch.

dont get me wrong.i dont like peter.i just dont think he is that much worse than any other contenders or fringe titlist.i think if you stick peter in any era,he will be the exact same as he is now.he could win a belt but wouldnt have a sustained run,and he could beat some top to mid level competition.i honestly dont believe that their have been 20 really great heavy weight fighters.

[StarshipTrooper]

Would Sam Peter have been a top contender in the 1990s how would he have fared against these fighters:

Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Andrew Golota
Oliver McCall
Tim Witherspoon
Tommy Morrison
David Tua
Razor Ruddock

I'd give Peter a better than even chance against weak-chinned Morrison and head-case Golota but I'd favor all the others to beat Peter rather easily.

Poet

[#1Assassin]

Would Sam Peter have been a top contender in the 1990s how would he have fared against these fighters:

Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Andrew Golota
Oliver McCall
Tim Witherspoon
Tommy Morrison
David Tua
Razor Ruddock

i can see peter beating bert cooper, but its a toss up to me. golota at his best beats him 9/10 times. peter would have a punchers chance against morrison, but not a good one. morrison was pretty smart, fast and skilled. especially compared to bum ass peter

all the rest would kill peter every time.

[sonnyboyx2]

uppercut,cross,and a hook.i still dont see your point by posting that

young,healthy very prime ruddock got damn near decapitated by an ancient bonecrusher smith


and healthy prime tim witherspoon was tko'd in 1 round by a getting ancient bonecrusher smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rN8jL3ylPU

and please have the decency not to say bonecrusher was the greatest blah blah blah,etc etc.he was a crude brawler just like peter

there is no doubt sam peter would have a good shot at stopping both razor,and tim

you are not very clued-up on the 80s & 90s heavyweight scene as like GreatA said, Witherspoon lay-down against Smith so as to get out of his contract with Don King, Bonecrusher was a very decent fighter with a pole-of-a-jab and could throw a huge right hand.. Sam Peter would be bounced around like a basketball by Bonecrusher Smith, Tim Witherspoon had the same weapons as Smith only better and he was also very ring-smart, i don't Peter lasting past 6rds against Terrible Tim.. Razor Ruddock although not as good as Spoon & Bonecrusher he still had far to much strength and punching power for Sam Peter who i dont think would make much impact in their era.

[BennyST]

Dokes would put it on em

Reed man, it's not often enough we see you here!

[BennyST]

dont get me wrong.i dont like peter.i just dont think he is that much worse than any other contenders or fringe titlist.i think if you stick peter in any era,he will be the exact same as he is now.he could win a belt but wouldnt have a sustained run,and he could beat some top to mid level competition.i honestly dont believe that their have been 20 really great heavy weight fighters.

Whoah....That's the one thing I strongly disagree with. I think this is the only era in which he would win a title. Would Oleg Maskaev win a title in any era? If not then I don't think Peter would because I don;t think there is anyone else Pewter would win the title off.

He got beat, flat out, by Toney in their first fight. No genuine Hw titlist could have been beaten by Toney at that stage of his career.

People also seem to have forgotten how easily he was beaten by that hack Chambers.

Come on...really? Peter? A HW champion in any era? One, at the most two...but no more. No chance. There are guys who have hit a lot harder than Wlad and had just as good sustained brutality...he doesn't get by them and he also gets hit by a lot of shots he doesn't see against better guys that haven't happened in this era.