Todays Super-Sized Heavyweights what are your thoughts

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Terrible post.


1. Wlad's jab is one of the hardest, stiffest, most impressive in Heavyweight History.
2. Willard had terrible movement - as if he were wearing concrete boots

Willard never fought a man his size. He only fought 1 boxer who weighed over 225 pounds. His KO power is greatly exaggerated by him fighting much smaller men.

Wlad has been fighting much bigger opponents and Knocking them out convincingly.

Wlad absolutely destroys Willard.

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and its clearly a crappy jab.

lacking speed and versitility, sturdy though almost like walking into a wall instead of like being hit in the face by a brick as a jab should be.

No it is not. You clearly are an idiot.


I've never read an article from a respectable scribe who would describe Wlad's jab as "mosquito-like" or "crappy".


You are making a fool of yourself. Shut up.

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a jab should start 6 inches from your face and go straight out, not 6 inches from the opponets face.

and what you throw after you throw a right straight is called a left straight as you rotate the right shoulder back into punch. when one jabs the hips move into the jab and the right shoulder stays still.

wlads left straight is decent, but his jab sucks.

Terrible. Terrible.

A laughable post.

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No it is not. You clearly are an idiot.


I've never read an article from a respectable scribe who would describe Wlad's jab as "mosquito-like" or "crappy".


You are making a fool of yourself. Shut up.

Id imagine willard would describe it as mosquito like.

[GoogleMe]

Don't mind this Robert guy. He says weightlifting is bad for a boxer in the training section, I just stopped reading there.

[sonnyboyx2]

They're crap.

Jess williard would show no fear and pwn them hard.

i agree with all you are saying.. i watched Wlad v Peter in my local boozer with a few guys and everyone was of the same opinion in that Wlad simply cannot box, he is terrible at every aspect of the sport with one guy making an excellent comment saying "He is good at being BIG".. i found him to be very poor indeed and he is wide-open for left-hooks, over-hand rights and a decent jab.. i would take Larry Holmes in his 40s to knock out Wlad or Vitali, Jess Willard would murder him... Lets hear from the height & weight brigade

[Spartacus Sully]

i agree with all you are saying.. i watched Wlad v Peter in my local boozer with a few guys and everyone was of the same opinion in that Wlad simply cannot box, he is terrible at every aspect of the sport with one guy making an excellent comment saying "He is good at being BIG".. i found him to be very poor indeed and he is wide-open for left-hooks, over-hand rights and a decent jab.. i would take Larry Holmes in his 40s to knock out Wlad or Vitali, Jess Willard would murder him... Lets hear from the height & weight brigade

I really got to watch the peter fight.

I disagree though in the over hand rights, he seems to do a very good job tucking his chin and raising his shoulder with the jab, atleast in past fights.

the rest sounds about right.

[GoogleMe]

You can't hate on Wladimir - he gives you K.O after K.O. Maybe he could make his hands go, maybe.

But the opposition are too afraid of these guys, they only try to go for the K.O punish and protect themselves. It's an achievement to go all 12 rounds with the Klitschko's... It's an insane thought but really, going 12 rounds with the brothers are like winning the belts...

[Spartacus Sully]

You can't hate on Wladimir - he gives you T.K.O after T.K.O. Maybe he could make his hands go, maybe.

But the opposition are too afraid of these guys, they only try to go for the K.O punish and protect themselves. It's an achievement to go all 12 rounds with the Klitschko's... It's an insane thought but really, going 12 rounds with the brothers are like winning the belts...

fixed it for ya.

[sonnyboyx2]

see you guys bitch and moan about people coming here and expressing their opinion on today's heavyweights, particulary Klitchkos, and while those people may go overhill but still provide reasonable points, you go crying to mods requesting bans.

but when you guys type something like this you demand respect as honorable posters of this forum, and it's your opinion that needs to be respected right.

one thing about you sonny, and im not pointing fingers here, but you seem to be having a hard time distinguishing size and measurements, and that includes height, weight etc. You seem to inlarge and shrink fighters anyway you please, but tell me this, how is a guy, who cant distinguish shyt when it comes to size, can be taken seriously in a debate of head to head fantasy match ups?

you dont watch boxing as 2 men fighting in the ring, you view it as a cartoon, and in those cartoons you can only dream about 180lb fighters coming into the ring and putting the big boys into coffins just by blowing on them.

now i got no problem with a guy expressing his opinion, but you are way past the ***in line calling anyone around here a troll with some of the shyt i seen you post here.

Height & weight has nothing whatsoever to do with boxing ability.. if Height & weight was a major factor then Nikolay Valuev would be champion for life...Governing bodies would not sanction fights between fighters if one guy was 6ins taller etc.. your whole arguments is flawed and based on nothing other than height & weight yet Height & weight are a hindrance an handicap but you try to turn it into a huge advantage for the taller heavier guy completely ignoring the skill factor