Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Todays Super-Sized Heavyweights what are your thoughts

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
    Height & weight has nothing whatsoever to do with boxing ability.. if Height & weight was a major factor then Nikolay Valuev would be champion for life...Governing bodies would not sanction fights between fighters if one guy was 6ins taller etc.. your whole arguments is flawed and based on nothing other than height & weight yet Height & weight are a hindrance an handicap but you try to turn it into a huge advantage for the taller heavier guy completely ignoring the skill factor
    weight matters to athletic fighters not slow overweight fighters like Valuev, your arguement is invalid. Valuev can be 500 of pure muscle he still wont amount to jack because he cant box for shyt, klitschko does, and if you dispute that you're biased and delusional.

    height and reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing from a physical stand point. weight just goes along with it, as the taller longer fighter will usually weigh more.

    it's hard to debate with someone who's got no idea what it's like to be in the ring. When you say things like carnera and willard would murder the klitchkos it shows you clearly dont got a godamn clue of wtf you're spewing. no clue whatsoever.

    Comment


    • #22
      Originally posted by Boogie Nights View Post
      height and reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing from a physical stand point. weight just goes along with it, as the taller longer fighter will usually weigh more.
      id say being physically fit and whether or not that muscle is big bulky muscle or boxer muscle is much more important then height and reach.

      from a physical stand point.

      Comment


      • #23
        There's advantages in both height and size. Being small and explosive or tall and a long reach. It's what you're made of and what you make out of the situation.

        Comment


        • #24
          Originally posted by GoogleMe View Post
          There's advantages in both height and size. Being small and explosive or tall and a long reach. It's what you're made of and what you make out of the situation.
          that's true, but a shorter more explosive fighter even in his victories will always have problems with ringwise tall fighters who know how to control range with their longer frame.

          if you're a short guy, and we're talking about heavyweights here in particular, you better focus on working the body, too many guys are head hunters out there.

          Comment


          • #25
            Originally posted by Boogie Nights View Post
            weight matters to athletic fighters not slow overweight fighters like Valuev, your arguement is invalid. Valuev can be 500 of pure muscle he still wont amount to jack because he cant box for shyt, klitschko does, and if you dispute that you're biased and delusional.

            height and reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing from a physical stand point. weight just goes along with it, as the taller longer fighter will usually weigh more.

            it's hard to debate with someone who's got no idea what it's like to be in the ring. When you say things like carnera and willard would murder the klitchkos it shows you clearly dont got a godamn clue of wtf you're spewing. no clue whatsoever.
            you are talking a load of rubbish... why did Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Mitch Green, Bonecrusher Smith all of who are 6ft 5ins tall or more with huge long reach get easily beaten by a 5ft 11ins Mike Tyson whose reach was far far shorter... Your problem is that you are a Klitschko nuthugger who gets annoyed when they are brought to question for their limitations.

            Comment


            • #26
              Originally posted by Boogie Nights View Post
              that's true, but a shorter more explosive fighter even in his victories will always have problems with ringwise tall fighters who know how to control range with their longer frame.

              if you're a short guy, and we're talking about heavyweights here in particular, you better focus on working the body, too many guys are head hunters out there.
              You also should be faster and stronger then. With a good guard and movement, you should be able to get under that jab and hurt the body.
              I agree with the headhunter statement - get them down on the flat foot. But it's often hard to make bodyshots, as it leaves you wide open for a counter.

              Comment


              • #27
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                you are talking a load of rubbish... why did Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Mitch Green, Bonecrusher Smith all of who are 6ft 5ins tall or more with huge long reach get easily beaten by a 5ft 11ins Mike Tyson whose reach was far far shorter... Your problem is that you are a Klitschko nuthugger who gets annoyed when they are brought to question for their limitations.
                i dont hug anyone, all of the guys you've mentioned did not have the skill or talent of either Klitschko, you recognize that talent in a big guy like Lewis but you wont give Wladimir his due so i will call you out on it. On the other hand i dont really care what you think, like i said before you watch boxing through the eyes of someone who writes cartoons for a living.

                Comment


                • #28
                  Wlad isn't an ATG, but to say he has no boxing ability is ridiculous. He is a skilled fighter.

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boogie Nights View Post
                    weight matters to athletic fighters not slow overweight fighters like Valuev, your arguement is invalid. Valuev can be 500 of pure muscle he still wont amount to jack because he cant box for shyt, klitschko does, and if you dispute that you're biased and delusional.

                    height and reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing from a physical stand point. weight just goes along with it, as the taller longer fighter will usually weigh more.

                    it's hard to debate with someone who's got no idea what it's like to be in the ring. When you say things like carnera and willard would murder the klitchkos it shows you clearly dont got a godamn clue of wtf you're spewing. no clue whatsoever.
                    1/. we seen saturday night that Wlad cannot box, yet you are claiming he does box which is simply not true, the guy is awful at it and to claim he is good is not being true to yourself and others who watched it.

                    2/. How the f*** do you know if i have any idea or not of what its like being in the ring?

                    3/. You claim Height & Reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing... Don't make me laugh you clown.

                    4/. Carnera & Willard are both superior in terms of boxing ability as well as stamina than both Klitschko's.. Wlad was completely knackered after 6rds he was sitting in his corner huffing & puffing... Jess Willard fought 23rds against the great Jack Johnson in 110* heat

                    5/. Height & Weight is a hindrance not an advantage.
                    Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 09-13-2010, 06:03 AM.

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      1/. we seen saturday night that Wlad cannot box, yet you are claiming he does box which is simply not true, the guy is awful at it and to claim he is good is not being true to yourself and others who watched it.you've seen he cant box, i and many others saw different

                      2/. How the f*** do you know if i have any idea or not of what its like being in the ring?no man who's been in the ring will spew the kind of **** you're spewing here

                      3/. You claim Height & Reach are the 2 biggest factors in boxing... Don't make me laugh you clown. Im afraid we are past the laughing part and it's time to cry now because you are one sad clown

                      4/. Carnera & Willard are both superior in terms of boxing ability as well as stamina than both Klitschko's.. Wlad was completely knackered after 6rds he was sitting in his corner huffing & puffing... Jess Willard fought 23rds against the great Jack Dempsey in 110* heat Jess Willard was knocked out in 3 rounds by the great Jack Dempsey

                      5/. Height & Weight is a hindrance not an advantage.
                      This is the last response i will ever make to your posts

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP