Anyone else agree that Roy Jones always had a glass chin?

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  • JAB5239
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    #11
    Originally posted by LionheartLewis
    Anyone can put a highlight clip together like that.Jones was all over the place when Del Valle knocked him down.the right hand that johnson knocked jones out cold was weak too.

    Its easy to call any punch weak unless you've actually been hit with it. Jones was hit plenty of times in his career and the lights were never turned out until he was clearly past it.

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    • turdleburgle
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      #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239

      Its easy to call any punch weak unless you've actually been hit with it. Jones was hit plenty of times in his career and the lights were never turned out until he was clearly past it.

      thats a ****** argument and you know it is,I gues I need to take a punch from paulie malignaggi to know that he's a feather fist? lol he wasnt clearly past it when johnson and tarver starched him either.danny green barely grazed him and he went over like a he got shot lol.granted he was past it then but the way he went down was hilarious.you dont see anyone but a glass chined boxer go down like that.

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      • Trenchant
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        #13
        Regarding the Johnson fight. It's the punch you don't see that hurts you. Jones chin became an issue after he came back down from Heavyweight, it's a fact. got starched by Tarver then Johnson and eventually Green, but earlier in his career no not a bad chin.

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        • turdleburgle
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          #14
          Originally posted by Trenchant
          Regarding the Johnson fight. It's the punch you don't see that hurts you. Jones chin became an issue after he came back down from Heavyweight, it's a fact. got starched by Tarver then Johnson and eventually Green, but earlier in his career no not a bad chin.


          fighters with good chins can take that type of punch obviously jones couldn't.he got knocked out cold and was on the canvas for ages.

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          • Vadrigar.
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            #15
            Originally posted by StarchedLOL
            Anyone can put a highlight clip together like that.Jones was all over the place when Del Valle knocked him down.the right hand that johnson knocked jones out cold was weak too.
            Yes and it demonstrates the point clearly. Jones got hit with plenty of similar shots by Del Valle in the same fight and didn't get knocked down. You can even lip read him; "I'm alright" he says to the referee. No jelly legs, no flickering eyes.

            BTW I hope you've watched the whole video. It's also funny how everything has to be black and white. Either he has "granite chin" or it's "pure glass". The thread title & poll is completely wrong.
            Last edited by Vadrigar.; 08-13-2010, 05:13 AM.

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            • Sugarj
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              #16
              I've seen prime Jones take harder punches in his prime than that Tarver left or the Johnson right................I've certainly seen Jones take harder jabs than that grazing right from Green.

              If this isn't clear evidence of deterioration of Roy's ability to hold a punch, I dont know what is. There was nothing wrong with his chin in his prime! Hopkins, Toney, Brannon, Williams, Griffin and Hill all landed decent head punches.

              It happens to many world class fighters who go up in weight and then come back down too far.

              It happened to Ray Leonard, he had one of the best chins in boxing. He goes as high as supermiddle. Then comes back against Norris at light middle and seems shaky when hit, a few years later Camacho TKOs him!

              Ricky Hatton's weight gain and loss is well documented. He walked through some sickeners early on in his career and walked through many bombs from Tszyu. But after the welterweight fight with Mayweather he goes back down to light welter and is shaky after being hit by comparatively light blows by Lazcano.

              De la Hoya vs Paq is another recent example, Oscars legs looked weak and shaky after being hit...........he looked weak full stop.

              Boxers are human beings, not computer game characters or cards in a Top Trumps pack. Boxers abilities, speed and ability to absorb punches can vary alot over the course of a career. Dramatic weight loss can certainly exacerbate a boxer's ability to hold a punch.

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              • #1Assassin
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                #17
                no he didnt. this isnt the type of thing u can disagree on either, in his prime he had a good chin for a fact. toney caught him a few times (just an example), and he aint called lights out for no reason.

                its beyond me why some ppl cant get it through their head that punch resistance fades with time, look at vargas and mayorga.. and roy jones!

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                • Schmerzen
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by StarchedLOL
                  People make out as if he only had a weak chin when he come down from heavyweight and when he was old but look at how reacted when Del Valle knocked him down.He was clearly hurt from what looked like an average punch.



                  he never had a strong chin he just didnt get hit alot
                  calzaghe couldnt stop him, even when he won every single round after the first one.
                  roy jones jr. fought a heavyweight with his "weak" chin and won.
                  he had a solid chin in the 90's.
                  if he retired after the ruiz fight, nobody would question his chin today..

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                  • Bright-Eyes
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                    #19
                    He took quite a few solid right hands from Ruiz in their fight and ruiz had decent power.


                    So no.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by StarchedLOL
                      thats a ****** argument and you know it is,I gues I need to take a punch from paulie malignaggi to know that he's a feather fist? lol he wasnt clearly past it when johnson and tarver starched him either.danny green barely grazed him and he went over like a he got shot lol.granted he was past it then but the way he went down was hilarious.you dont see anyone but a glass chined boxer go down like that.
                      Do us all a favor and quit trolling with you new avatar and user name. It's obvious you cannot be objective about this so arguing with you is senseless. Jones had a fine chin till he was past his best. If this weren't true he would have been ko'd long ago by the likes of Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Tate, Sosa, Johnson, Griffin and Del Valle.

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