My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

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  • butterfly1964
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    #551
    Originally posted by Hawkins
    No, Louis was a more than adequate infighter when he had to be. Louis got up close and personal anytime the occasion called for it. If you think Louis would just back up and let Tyson tee-off on him I think you have it twisted. Louis was way too smart for that.

    He would use a gameplan much like Holyfield did in my estimation.
    And did Holyfield "crowd" him? No, he backed up and counterpunched, just like I said Louis would do, so what's your point?

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    • butterfly1964
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      #552
      Originally posted by Hawkins
      Joe Louis was the most technically polished of all the great heavyweights. Great boxer and a great power puncher. No one else had the talents as he did.
      He still got hit with too many right hands, so I don't see how that equates into the most technically polished of all HWs.

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      • Hawkins
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        #553
        Originally posted by Galveston Giant
        And did Holyfield "crowd" him? No, he backed up and counterpunched, just like I said Louis would do, so what's your point?
        Holyfield got in Mike's face and took away his power shots in the beginning of the fight. Just like Louis would have done. When Mike resorted to nothing but headhunting thats when the counterpunching came in and was so effective.

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        • butterfly1964
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          #554
          Originally posted by Hawkins
          Holyfield got in Mike's face and took away his power shots in the beginning of the fight. Just like Louis would have done. When Mike resorted to nothing but headhunting thats when the counterpunching came in and was so effective.
          Yeah right, he took it away? He got nailed with everything in the book in the first round. It's a miracle the fight didn't end there. Holyfield was in big trouble.

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          • The Iron Man
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            #555
            Wow Galveston, i didnt realise how much you rated tyson, its a pretty good list in my eyes! mines in my sig if u wanna have a look. So do you base your list on Match ups between each other then?
            Also i dnt think louis could fight tyson like holyfield did, his chin isint as good and he wouldnt be strong enough.

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            • Hawkins
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              #556
              Originally posted by Galveston Giant
              Yeah right, he took it away? He got nailed with everything in the book in the first round. It's a miracle the fight didn't end there. Holyfield was in big trouble.
              He tagged him once. The rest of the time he stayed in Mike's grill.

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              • Jim Jeffries
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                #557
                Originally posted by Galveston Giant
                I've changed my list again, and this time I'll explain why I made the changes.

                1. Muhammad Ali
                2. Sonny Liston
                3. Mike Tyson
                4. Joe Louis
                5. Larry Holmes
                6. Jack Johnson
                7. George Foreman
                8. Joe Frazier
                9. Jack Dempsey
                10. Lennox Lewis
                So this list is purely on who would win heads up right? I don't think Liston could beat Louis, Holmes, Foreman or Lewis heads up. I don't think Tyson would beat Louis, Holmes, Foreman or Lewis hu. I don't think Holmes would beat Foreman, Frazier or Lewis hu. I don't think Johnson could beat Foreman, Frazier, Dempsey, or Lewis hu. I don't think Frazier could beat Lewis hu, and I don't think Dempsey could beat Lewis hu. But that's just my opinion, interesting list, and all we can do is speculate.

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                • fortune100
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                  #558
                  good top ten but dempsey was better than number ten.

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                  • Hawkins
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                    #559
                    Galveston Giant,

                    Lets forget Louis/Tyson match up for a minute. I think the most intriguing match-up would be Ali/Tyson. Since you have him above everyone else I'm guessing you think he beats everyone.

                    How do you see Ali/Tyson playing out?

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                    • them_apples
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                      #560
                      It's a good list but why is L_Lewis so low?

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