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  • #11
    De La Hoya has the greater legacy,calzaghe was the better fighter

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    • #12
      joe won all his biggest fights and de la hoya lost all his so it's no comparison really.


      de la hoya also lost several times and how many did joe lose?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by LionheartLewis View Post
        joe won all his biggest fights and de la hoya lost all his so it's no comparison really.


        de la hoya also lost several times and how many did joe lose?
        Great analysis. Cong****, you're now the worst poster on this entire forum.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
          Great analysis. Cong****, you're now the worst poster on this entire forum.



          no mate you and that sonny boy are the worst posters on here.atleast I dont hate on fighters because they come from a different country like you and he does.


          and its true as joe did all his biggest fights.how many did de la hoya win?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by LionheartLewis View Post
            no mate you and that sonny boy are the worst posters on here.atleast I dont hate on fighters because they come from a different country like you and he does.


            and its true as joe did all his biggest fights.how many did de la hoya win?
            I won't debate with you about the legacy of these two because you're out of your element and I don't have the time.

            But I will let you know that Sonny is British, you dolt.

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            • #16
              You only have to see Oscar's record to see how many hall of famers he fought!

              All the below were top ten pound for pound rated when he fought them. That he lost some (a few by split decision) is hardly a disgrace:

              Julio Cesar Chavez

              Pernell Whitaker

              Ike Quartey

              Felix Trinidad (very debatable loss)

              Shane Mosley (twice, both very close)

              Fernando Vargas

              Bernard Hopkins (close fight until stoppage, well above Oscar's natural fighting weight)

              Floyd Mayweather Jnr (very close fight in my opinion)


              And thats not mentioning the likes of Hernandez, Leija, Carr, Gatti, Castillejo, Mayorga and Sturm and a few more who were decent world champions in their own right.

              That he mixed in this company and more than acquitted himself well more than edges his resume over Calzaghe.


              Calzaghe only fought one top ten pound for pound ranked fighter in his entire career and that was Hopkins. Eubank, Lacy, Kessler and Jones were certainly not pound for pound top ten when he faced them. He did face some half decent fighters in Woodhall, Reid, Mitchell and Brewer, but these weren't pound for pound rated.

              Not Joe's fault, but lets just say that if he had met the mid to late 90s versions of Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Montell Griffin OR dare I say Sven Ottke (in Germany at least you'd have to fancy a shocking points robbery!) at super middle or light heavy then his record might not have been so perfect.

              I suppose the super middleweight division was a bit weak for Joe's era, not really any pound for pound superstars to face, again not Joe's fault but it will harm his legacy a bit.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                Great analysis. Cong****, you're now the worst poster on this entire forum.
                haha.

                Great stufff.


                Fight!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by LionheartLewis View Post
                  joe won all his biggest fights and de la hoya lost all his so it's no comparison really.


                  de la hoya also lost several times and how many did joe lose?
                  agreed.

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                  • #19
                    haha its not even close de la hoya....calzaghe is a ****in joke to be mentioned as great........

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                      You only have to see Oscar's record to see how many hall of famers he fought!

                      All the below were top ten pound for pound rated when he fought them. That he lost some (a few by split decision) is hardly a disgrace:

                      Julio Cesar Chavez

                      Pernell Whitaker

                      Ike Quartey

                      Felix Trinidad (very debatable loss)

                      Shane Mosley (twice, both very close)

                      Fernando Vargas

                      Bernard Hopkins (close fight until stoppage, well above Oscar's natural fighting weight)

                      Floyd Mayweather Jnr (very close fight in my opinion)


                      And thats not mentioning the likes of Hernandez, Leija, Carr, Gatti, Castillejo, Mayorga and Sturm and a few more who were decent world champions in their own right.

                      That he mixed in this company and more than acquitted himself well more than edges his resume over Calzaghe.


                      Calzaghe only fought one top ten pound for pound ranked fighter in his entire career and that was Hopkins. Eubank, Lacy, Kessler and Jones were certainly not pound for pound top ten when he faced them. He did face some half decent fighters in Woodhall, Reid, Mitchell and Brewer, but these weren't pound for pound rated.

                      Not Joe's fault, but lets just say that if he had met the mid to late 90s versions of Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Montell Griffin OR dare I say Sven Ottke (in Germany at least you'd have to fancy a shocking points robbery!) at super middle or light heavy then his record might not have been so perfect.

                      I suppose the super middleweight division was a bit weak for Joe's era, not really any pound for pound superstars to face, again not Joe's fault but it will harm his legacy a bit.
                      You do realize its a lot easier for people at lighter weights to move divisions up and down and that p4p rankings tend to favor those 154 and below. Joe weighed 168 most of his career. Unfair to use p4p. If you define greatness using the p4p rankings then clearly Floyd is the best, he's beaten a ton of guys on the p4p list.

                      p4p lists are joke. Wlad is the most dominant champ in boxing and hes left off most lists...theyre a popularity contenst. I watch boxing, not was a buncha tards say. p4p who wins head to head Floyd or Vitali? If you have an answer youre an idiot. you shrink Vitali down to floyds size with vitali's power and reach? he kills floyd, you move floyd up to vitali's size with his speed and quickness and skill, he kills vitali. p4p is ******ed.

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