P4P Rocky is better then both. He would take one handed Frazier easy, the body work would be open.
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How would Rocky Marciano do against Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson?
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Frazier vs. Marciano is quite close, but Frazier takes it in Rounds 12-15 with a left hook to put Marciano down and then a TKO to follow shortly. They were very similar but Frazier had more "controlled aggression" and swarmed better.
Marciano vs. Tyson would be over in 6 rounds; Tyson had too much accuracy, timing and speed for someone as light as Marciano.
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Originally posted by boxing boy View PostNo,Tyson acually out weighed Marciano by 30 lbs,not 20 lbs.
Tyson was bigger,stronger,faster,and hit harder.
Tyson would blitz Marciano,and early in the fight.Within' 3 rounds.
Tyson has said himself that he likes to use his small size to his advantage. He wouldn't have that advantage, in this fight.
Marciano would get in on the inside. He would have the advantage on the inside, because he would be detracting Tyson's reach advantage. Marciano had one of the greatest chins in heavyweight history, so I'm sure he would be able to take his punches.
Stamina advantage goes to Marciano. He fought in a time where there was 15 rounds, compared to Tyson's 12. He also fought at a very fast pace and never seemed to tire.
Speaking of a faster pace, Marciano would throw a much larger volume of punches compared to Tyson. That would mean that Tyson would be facing adversity. What's happened when Tyson faced adversity, in the past? He's crumbled. Against Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis, he crumbled.
If the fight goes past 5 rounds and Marciano is still coming forward like his usual self, Tyson gets knocked out late.
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Marciano would crack frazier's glass jaw within the first four or five rounds.
Then again,what are the odds that frazier would even have the testicular fortitude to sign up to fight a puncher?Last edited by prinzemanspopa; 07-03-2010, 06:40 PM.
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Originally posted by prinzemanspopa View PostMarciano would crack frazier's glass jaw within the first four or five rounds.
Then again,what are the odds that frazier would even have the testicular fortitude to sign up to fight a puncher?
Your signature is terrible. How you can disrespect a warrior like Frazier, I don't know.
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Originally posted by righthook10 View PostHe fought one of the hardest punchers in heavyweight history. He also had a rematch with that puncher.
Your signature is terrible. How you can disrespect a warrior like Frazier, I don't know.
He signed to fight that puncher(the first and only puncher he ever fought) after avoiding him,and virtually every other puncher of his generation for so long.
He took a rematch when he had no other alternative.
No foreman rematch = no last payday.
You find it "terrible",yet I find it hilarious.Quite hilarious that this so called "warrior" would turn his back and literally run away,in fear, from his opponent.
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Originally posted by prinzemanspopa View PostHe signed to fight that puncher(the first and only puncher he ever fought) after avoiding him,and virtually every other puncher of his generation for so long.
He took a rematch when he had no other alternative.
No foreman rematch = no last payday.
You find it "terrible",yet I find it hilarious.Quite hilarious that this so called "warrior" would turn his back and literally run away,in fear, from his opponent.
So what if it was a good payday to take a Foreman rematch? He still stepped up to the challenge and gave Foreman a competitive fight up until the stoppage.
He wasn't running away from Foreman, in that picture. He was dazed and was about to fall to the canvas before Foreman hit him with another punch. It might appear like he was running in the actual picture, but he really wasn't.
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Originally posted by -IronMike- View PostThis is clearly an ALT, who did you used to be?
Power: Tyson
Speed: Tyson
Reach: Tyson
Skillset: Tyson
Intangibles: Marciano
Tyson during his prime weighed around 215 lbs, Marciano weighed around 185 lbs. that's difference of 30 lbs. That's a lot to give up, Tyson always started out strong for the first 4-5 rounds of a fight, I cant see Marciano weathering that storm. Especially when you take into account that guys a lot smaller than Tyson had dropped him (Moore and Walcott)
With the exception of a very over the hill Louis, Marciano never fought a prime skilled hw who weighed over 200+
By the way, you have a few typos in your comparisons. Allow me to correct them:
Power: Marciano
Speed: Tyson
Reach: Tyson
Skillset: Marciano
Intangibles: Marciano
Your boy Tyson has knocked out fighters weighing 30 pounds more than him so that argument doesn't carry much weight, no pun intended.
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Interesting match ups. Hard to pick for me but to put Marciano's case forward.
Tyson might struggle if the fight went beyond 5 rounds whereas Marciano's stamina was phenominal. Some of Marciano's more "creative" moves might make him lose his head like he did with Holyfield.
Re Frazier I can't see Frazier knocking Marciano out and given Joe's slow starts you might find that he might lose the first 3 or 4 rounds as he often did but then not be able to outwork Marciano in the later rounds to nick a decision.
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