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How would Rocky Marciano do against Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson?

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  • #21
    Size and weight means a lot in boxing, that's why there are so many weight divisions and trainers and managers argue over something as little as a couple of pounds.

    While Marciano is an ATG, he was too small for either Frazier or Tyson, NATURALLY smaller. What was he, 190lbs at most?

    Tyson and Frazier were just to strong for him, I don't see Marciano, especially with the style he had, beating either of those two.

    Marciano was a come forward, bully type of a fighter, that's a perfect match up against either Tyson or Frazier. I think Rocky get's ko'd and rather easily.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by James Bond View Post
      i can agree with fraizer being as fast as marciano if not faster in the aspects of foot work and bobbing.
      Originally posted by James Bond View Post
      stamina was close as well though rocky used up his punching and fraizer used up his bobbing. but as far as toughness and hard hitting fraizer was definetly lacking in comparison to marciano. as ive already pointed out the minute diffrence in stance alone inherently increases marcianos toughness on top of an allready equal level of toughness... i mean there is no doubt that once kd they will both get up but what i doubt is that what it takes to kd fraizer is any where near what it takes to kd marciano plus once they do get up fraizer still has to bob weave block deflect and what not while marciano only needs to keep his chin tucked and guard up. hitting power...well they both hit pretty hard but fraizer only hit hard while he was moving about with his bobbing and weaving using the movement of his body in the same direction of the punch to drastically increase the punches. while marciano used his stalking to firmly root himself and let the punches come from the ground allowing him to punch hard all the time and even harder when he was bobbing with the punches then there are those slightly unorthodox wild rights that he could throw better and faster then ive ever seen thrown.

      im still going with marciano to destroy fraizer... almost to the point where ali would be embarrassed.
      Frazier was faster than Marciano. That's not even debatable if you watch them fight and compare the speed and style. And he was 20 pounds heavier.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
        Size and weight means a lot in boxing, that's why there are so many weight divisions and trainers and managers argue over something as little as a couple of pounds.

        While Marciano is an ATG, he was too small for either Frazier or Tyson, NATURALLY smaller. What was he, 190lbs at most?

        Tyson and Frazier were just to strong for him, I don't see Marciano, especially with the style he had, beating either of those two.

        Marciano was a come forward, bully type of a fighter, that's a perfect match up against either Tyson or Frazier. I think Rocky get's ko'd and rather easily.
        It really is that simple. With Marciano's straight ahead style he would get chopped up and put away. He's too small to overpower either one and that's what he would have to do.

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        • #24
          Marciano KO's Frazier.

          Marciano vs Tyson would go the distance. Tyson decision.

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          • #25
            Tyson didn't have the fortitude to deal with someone as pugnacious as Rocky. Marciano by KO 8. People still don't see him for what he was: An over-hyped bum fighting in a weak era who folded every time he was challenged.

            Against Frazier would have been different. I could see Rocky sitting back and letting Joe come inside on him, and cracking him with the Suzie Q on the way in. But Frazier's chin was better than people give him credit for. He may go down early, but he'll get up and continue attacking. Both men had incredible stamina, but I see Marciano having too much left in the tank late in the fight. Rocky KO 14.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
              Tyson didn't have the fortitude to deal with someone as pugnacious as Rocky. Marciano by KO 8. People still don't see him for what he was: An over-hyped bum fighting in a weak era who folded every time he was challenged.

              Against Frazier would have been different. I could see Rocky sitting back and letting Joe come inside on him, and cracking him with the Suzie Q on the way in. But Frazier's chin was better than people give him credit for. He may go down early, but he'll get up and continue attacking. Both men had incredible stamina, but I see Marciano having too much left in the tank late in the fight. Rocky KO 14.
              You're a clown. Seriously.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                Tyson didn't have the fortitude to deal with someone as pugnacious as Rocky. Marciano by KO 8. People still don't see him for what he was: An over-hyped bum fighting in a weak era who folded every time he was challenged.
                This is clearly an ALT, who did you used to be?

                Power: Tyson
                Speed: Tyson
                Reach: Tyson
                Skillset: Tyson
                Intangibles: Marciano


                Tyson during his prime weighed around 215 lbs, Marciano weighed around 185 lbs. that's difference of 30 lbs. That's a lot to give up, Tyson always started out strong for the first 4-5 rounds of a fight, I cant see Marciano weathering that storm. Especially when you take into account that guys a lot smaller than Tyson had dropped him (Moore and Walcott)

                With the exception of a very over the hill Louis, Marciano never fought a prime skilled hw who weighed over 200+
                Last edited by Toney616; 07-03-2010, 06:26 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by -IronMike- View Post
                  Tyson during his prime weighed around 215 lbs, Marciano weighed around 185 lbs. that's difference of 20 lbs. That's a lot to give up,
                  and apparently alot to subtract as well.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by James Bond View Post
                    and apparently alot to subtract as well.
                    nice one, lol

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by James Bond View Post
                      and apparently alot to subtract as well.
                      No,Tyson acually out weighed Marciano by 30 lbs,not 20 lbs.

                      Tyson was bigger,stronger,faster,and hit harder.

                      Tyson would blitz Marciano,and early in the fight.Within' 3 rounds.

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