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How would Rocky Marciano do against Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    I love Rocky but he never fought anyone nearly as fast, tough, hard hitting and with equal stamina to his own. Yeah, Frazier probably tastes the canvas. But I doubt Marciano can keep him there. I use to think Rocky would win this fight but have since changed my mind and consider him (with all due respect) a poor mans Frazier. Joe was simply better at every aspect of the sport.
    i can agree with fraizer being as fast as marciano if not faster in the aspects of foot work and bobbing. stamina was close as well though rocky used up his punching and fraizer used up his bobbing. but as far as toughness and hard hitting fraizer was definetly lacking in comparison to marciano. as ive already pointed out the minute diffrence in stance alone inherently increases marcianos toughness on top of an allready equal level of toughness... i mean there is no doubt that once kd they will both get up but what i doubt is that what it takes to kd fraizer is any where near what it takes to kd marciano plus once they do get up fraizer still has to bob weave block deflect and what not while marciano only needs to keep his chin tucked and guard up. hitting power...well they both hit pretty hard but fraizer only hit hard while he was moving about with his bobbing and weaving using the movement of his body in the same direction of the punch to drastically increase the punches. while marciano used his stalking to firmly root himself and let the punches come from the ground allowing him to punch hard all the time and even harder when he was bobbing with the punches then there are those slightly unorthodox wild rights that he could throw better and faster then ive ever seen thrown.

    im still going with marciano to destroy fraizer... almost to the point where ali would be embarrassed.
    Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 06-30-2010, 03:52 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by James Bond View Post
      i can agree with fraizer being as fast as marciano if not faster in the aspects of foot work and bobbing. stamina was close as well though rocky used up his punching and fraizer used up his bobbing. but as far as toughness and hard hitting fraizer was definetly lacking in comparison to marciano. as ive already pointed out the minute diffrence in stance alone inherently increases marcianos toughness on top of an allready equal level of toughness... i mean there is no doubt that once kd they will both get up but what i doubt is that what it takes to kd fraizer is any where near what it takes to kd marciano plus once they do get up fraizer still has to bob weave block deflect and what not while marciano only needs to keep his chin tucked and guard up. hitting power...well they both hit pretty hard but fraizer only hit hard while he was moving about with his bobbing and weaving using the movement of his body in the same direction of the punch to drastically increase the punches. while marciano used his stalking to firmly root himself and let the punches come from the ground allowing him to punch hard all the time and even harder when he was bobbing with the punches then there are those slightly unorthodox wild rights that he could throw better and faster then ive ever seen thrown.

      im still going with marciano to destroy fraizer... almost to the point where ali would be embarrassed.
      No, Joe Frazier stops Rocky on cuts.

      Tyson KOs him.

      And LOL at you saying Marciano takes out Frazier faster then Foreman

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Chex31 View Post
        No, Joe Frazier stops Rocky on cuts.

        Tyson KOs him.

        And LOL at you saying Marciano takes out Frazier faster then Foreman
        those are some really good points you bring up like how Marciano was about to be stopped on cuts after losing 7 straight rounds and having his nose split open only to knock Charles the f**k out in the very next round.....Marciano wouldn't just ko or kd fraizer he would break him.
        Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 06-30-2010, 04:26 AM.

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        • #14
          Depends almost entirely on how effective the Rock's power would be against them. I could see Frazier getting dropped but probably taking it due to a more effective infighting defense. If he could weather the early rounds he might be able to stop Tyson late, his conditioning was second to none and Tyson always had some stamina issues.

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          • #15
            IMO Tyson and Frazier both knock him out.

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            • #16
              i dont like rocky's chances against tyson, too much speed, power, and tyson would have like 30 or more pounds on him. people are seriously underestimating tyson's chances when it comes to fantasy match ups against yester year fighters

              frazier being a slow starter would be a better match. it's a toss up, frazier had problems with quarry and bonavena both of whom foughts frazier on the inside, something that marciano loved to do.

              it's a toss up.

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              • #17
                I give him a good chance with Frazier but not Tyson. Marciano would compete with Frazier but Tyson's two-fisted power, speed and combos would be too much, imo.

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                • #18
                  Marciano would get ktfo by a prime tyson, however he might take fraizer the distance which was 15 rounds back then. If Marciano can withstand Tysons initial onslaught than he might win, but then again he might end up like Hatton vs Pacquiao

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                  • #19
                    I can't see him doing well against either puncher. But his short stature might make him a difficult opponent. He also had a ton of heart and great endurance.

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                    • #20
                      I don't think Marciano would have a chance against Tyson unless you evened things out size wise. In practical terms, Tyson is so much faster and bigger than Marciano he would win because of that.

                      Frazier is a different story, he would have basically the same size advantage but not the big athletic advantage. If Marciano lands enough big punches during the fight he may stop Frazier, but it's more likely he is beaten up and Frazier wins a decision in a really good fight.

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