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development periods which happened to coincide with the last time the division didn't completely blow. I mean like, six, seven years. Usually Heavies who took that long to be ready were the ones being ducked. They had far deeper amateur careers than guys like Tyson and Holmes and, even in 2003 (pre-Sanders) there was still a question if Wlad was 'ready' for Lennox.
I always thought that was a bad sign. Then Corrie splatted him, one could picture Lennox landing, and what he wasn't 'ready' for was pretty obvious.
yeah... vitali didn't duck rahman.... he showed his injuries, to the boxing fans, and proved that he was legit injured, he showed his x-rays etc..
unlike haye, who doesn't have any proof of his injuries..
didn't know this,I just have Larry Merchant giving his account of his interview with the surgeon who did VK's original spinal operation, the one that caused the Rahman and King PR craparoo.
While I don't give James Toney any chance at all against either brother , I think it is awful McCall never got his chance as I think that in about the time of 1999-2002 McCall stood a good chance against Wladimir especially , although if there was ever anyone to really upset Vitali , it is McCall.
If you want to maker a case, one could note they were both given
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development periods which happened to coincide with the last time the division didn't completely blow. I mean like, six, seven years. Usually Heavies who took that long to be ready were the ones being ducked. They had far deeper amateur careers than guys like Tyson and Holmes and, even in 2003 (pre-Sanders) there was still a question if Wlad was 'ready' for Lennox.
I always thought that was a bad sign. Then Corrie splatted him, one could picture Lennox landing, and what he wasn't 'ready' for was pretty obvious.
That's the problem when you lump them together. Vitali won a title from Hide 2 1/2 years after turning pro. And that was after doing more kickboxing than amateur boxing.
Wlad had an extensive AM career and while his opposition wasn't the greatest, he did have 24 fights his first two years. Even after the Puritty loss, he managed to fight for a title before 4 years as a pro. By comparison, Ali took almost 3 1/2 and that was without a loss.
I'll have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Wlad tried to get a fight with Lennox before 2003, as did his brother. And I'm sure Wlad would've given him hell at the time, especially the Wlad that fought Mercer.
I don't like the word "ducked" but I have noticed a pattern where the two brothers match fighters by their strengths. For example a puncher is more likely to fight Vitali tham Wladimir. But I wouldn't say they duck because there has been nobody in the division worth ducking for years. If Tua was in his prime it would be interesting to see if they fought him but after the layoffs Tua is a question mark still.
That's the problem when you lump them together. Vitali won a title from Hide 2 1/2 years after turning pro. And that was after doing more kickboxing than amateur boxing.
Wlad had an extensive AM career and while his opposition wasn't the greatest, he did have 24 fights his first two years. Even after the Puritty loss, he managed to fight for a title before 4 years as a pro. By comparison, Ali took almost 3 1/2 and that was without a loss.
I'll have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Wlad tried to get a fight with Lennox before 2003, as did his brother. And I'm sure Wlad would've given him hell at the time, especially the Wlad that fought Mercer.
Don't put much stock in that 'title'. Seriously. Herbie Hide? The Heavyweight crown rested between Evander and Lewis. Hide wasn't a remote serious consideration anywhere but near the bottom of the class. That's the problem with belts...too often, they can covey false legitimacy.
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