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How Much Do Hopkins's Losses To Taylorx2, and Calzaghe Effect His ATG Ranking?

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  • How Much Do Hopkins's Losses To Taylorx2, and Calzaghe Effect His ATG Ranking?

    Well????????

  • #2
    Originally posted by JerseySugar View Post
    Well????????
    Not much. All of em were close fights.IMO, he won the 1st taylor fight.

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    • #3
      not much at all being how disputed they were and his age.and he absolutly mauled pavlik.those wins wouldve went nice on his resume though

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      • #4
        They were close fights with good fighters. He went on to do have some good wins after the Taylor losses and a great win and great performance vs Pavlik after the Calzaghe loss. He also came close to beating Calzaghe, and fought a pretty good fight against him.

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        • #5
          So no, they don't affect his standing.

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          • #6
            not to be a smart ass BUT... SRR lost a **** ton of fights after he lost the middleweight title for the last time. Dont think it effected his ATG status much as he is rated, oh i dont know, number one??? If it sounds like im being sarcastic, I am. People put WAAAAY too much emphasis on losses nowadays. In the old days, losses were part of life. Part of a career. Unfortunately, they define who you are today. Its sad really. Bottom line...Bhop is top 5, one of the greatest middles of all time. hands down

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            • #7
              He was 40 years old when he lost twice to Taylor in a very close fight. He was 45 years old when he lost to Calzaghe in a competitive fight.

              How many fighter's losses when they are 40+ years old are held against them?

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              • #8
                Do the losses towards the end of any fighters career really matter? All of them lose fights to people they would have probably beaten in their prime.
                I don't think anyone looks back and says William Joppy was great because he beat Duran or Memo Ayon how went 15-8 in his career was an ATG because he beat Sugar Ray Robinson.

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                • #9
                  I'd say it affected the winning fighters more than anyone. Jermain was never quite the same after those two fights. Joe thought of himself as some kind "legend killer" (Roy and Bhop)and wanted to retire that way.

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                  • #10
                    Not that much

                    But a note to all the people bringing up his age-all his best wins came when he was 36+ so it really isnt the point

                    What i mean is that if you took off the part of his record when he was old you would be erasing some of his best wins aswell as those losses

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