Is Mike Tyson A ATG?

[Toney616]

How can you say Mike was in no position to be heavy champ so young? He unified all 3 titles vs. 3 champions in less than a year. He also ran through Spinks for the lineal title. He ran through his first 10 title fights.

Im talking about his level of emotional and mental maturity at the time, he had no business being under the spotlight at so young a age. He was rushed into it because Cus wanted to see him crowned as a champion before he died.

I think anybody with any sanity realizes Mike's prime ended when he was inactive for 4 years serving his prison sentence.

No, his prime ended after the Spinks fight, he left Ronney after that fight. And stopped training properly, compare the Green fight to the Ruddock fight

He was still able to unify the WBA & WBC, however briefly, after he came out of prison. That's pretty damn impressive. Mike fought everyone in front of him, and before jail, was lighting in a bottle.

He never wanted anything to do with Foreman. Also Bruno and Sheldon were abysmal world champions

[Toney616]

Well, to be fair, he bit Holyfield because he was getting headbutted. Still not the socially acceptable thing to do, but it's not like he was just getting frustrated and did it.

Tyson bit him because he was getting a beating and he wanted a way out. Have you seen Holyfield Toney yet?

[TheDreamer]

Are we talking about heavyweight greatness or P4P greatnesss?

[Joeyzagz]

If you are judging greatness by what his actual resume' turned out to be he barely makes top 10.

If you judge greatness by name recognition and his popularity then he is in the top 3 or 4.

I take both into account so he ends up 6 or 7 on my list.

[Toney616]

Are we talking about heavyweight greatness or P4P greatnesss?

p4p greatness

[TheDreamer]

p4p greatness

Then no, he's not.

I'd say the limit for an all-time great is top 25 or top 30 and there's just too many better fighters.

[Toney616]

Then no, he's not.

I'd say the limit for an all-time great is top 25 or top 30 and there's just too many better fighters.

I thought the limit was generally considered to be 100?

[TheDreamer]

I thought the limit was generally considered to be 100?

It's all based on opinion, but I think that's stretching way too much. The maximum I would go is top 30.

[Toney616]

It's all based on opinion, but I think that's stretching way too much. The maximum I would go is top 30.

Fair enough

[Rikeņa]

It was always exciting to see Tyson fight I wish his career would have lasted longer.