Ali or Louis?

[Rolling Stone]

Ali - 27

Louis - 6

Seems like boxingscene are heavily in favour of Ali

[Schmerzen]

Just match up Ali's opponents with Louis's that they beat.

I have my picks in BOLD

1. Foreman 40-0-0 vs. Max Baer 50-6-0
2. Frazier 30-1-0 & 32-2-0 vs. Walcott 44-11-2 & 44-12-2
3. Liston 35-1-0 & 35-2-0 vs. Schmeling 52-7-4
4. Norton 30-1-0 & 37-3-0 vs. Braddock 50-25-7
5. Patterson 43-4-0 & 55-7-1 vs. Conn 59-10-1 & 62-11-1
6. Quarry 37-4-4 & 43-5-4 vs. Nova 26-2-4
7. Bonavena 46-6-1 vs. Galento 76-23-5
8. Ellis 30-6-0 vs. Sharkey 38-13-3
9. Folley 74-7-4 vs. Farr 66-20-13 Pick-Em
10. Terrell 38-4-0 vs. Carnera 82-7-0
11. Chuvalo 34-11-2 & 66-17-2 vs. Godoy 53-8-7 & 53-9-7
12. Lyle 30-2-1 vs. Simon 34-7-0
13. Shavers 54-5-1 vs. Buddy Baer 50-5-0 & 50-6-0
14. Bugner 43-4-1 & 51-6-1 vs.
15. Bob Foster 49-5-0 vs.
16. Mac Foster 28-1-0 vs.
17. Mildenberger 49-2-3
18. Moore 184-22-11
19. Young 17-4-2
20. Williams 65-5-1
21. Jones 21-3-1
22. Cooper 27-8-1 & 33-11-1
23. L. Spinks 7-0-1

This is their records at the time(s) they fought Ali and Louis. You can also switch them around if you want; just try to pick the best against the best. Meaning you should have the top opponents that Ali boxed against the top opponents of Louis.

That’s 31 wins against 23 different opponents. All 23 opponents were rated #3 or better in the World at one time or another by Ring Magazine.

alis oppontents are just stronger head 2 head compared to louis, there is no way any1 can deny that.

[boxingbuff]

Muhammad Ali fought in 17 fights that were against a world champion.

That's almost 1/3 of his fights.

[Rolling Stone]

Just match up Ali's opponents with Louis's that they beat.

I have my picks in BOLD

1. Foreman 40-0-0 vs. Max Baer 50-6-0
2. Frazier 30-1-0 & 32-2-0 vs. Walcott 44-11-2 & 44-12-2
3. Liston 35-1-0 & 35-2-0 vs. Schmeling 52-7-4
4. Norton 30-1-0 & 37-3-0 vs. Braddock 50-25-7
5. Patterson 43-4-0 & 55-7-1 vs. Conn 59-10-1 & 62-11-1
6. Quarry 37-4-4 & 43-5-4 vs. Nova 26-2-4
7. Bonavena 46-6-1 vs. Galento 76-23-5
8. Ellis 30-6-0 vs. Sharkey 38-13-3
9. Folley 74-7-4 vs. Farr 66-20-13 Pick-Em
10. Terrell 38-4-0 vs. Carnera 82-7-0
11. Chuvalo 34-11-2 & 66-17-2 vs. Godoy 53-8-7 & 53-9-7
12. Lyle 30-2-1 vs. Simon 34-7-0
13. Shavers 54-5-1 vs. Buddy Baer 50-5-0 & 50-6-0
14. Bugner 43-4-1 & 51-6-1 vs.
15. Bob Foster 49-5-0 vs.
16. Mac Foster 28-1-0 vs.
17. Mildenberger 49-2-3
18. Moore 184-22-11
19. Young 17-4-2
20. Williams 65-5-1
21. Jones 21-3-1
22. Cooper 27-8-1 & 33-11-1
23. L. Spinks 7-0-1

This is their records at the time(s) they fought Ali and Louis. You can also switch them around if you want; just try to pick the best against the best. Meaning you should have the top opponents that Ali boxed against the top opponents of Louis.

That’s 31 wins against 23 different opponents. All 23 opponents were rated #3 or better in the World at one time or another by Ring Magazine.

Great post mate.........its so evident when you place them side by side that Ali's level of competition was just 1 up on everyone else

[boxingbuff]

I think this thread has been settled.Ali in a landslide.

[Barn]

I got Louis, but don't have any problems with someone rating Ali in the 1 spot. Ali has the better resume, but I think its more impressive to stay on top as long as Louis did.

I'm with you here.

This makes for an interesting read on the subject:
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/alilouis.html

Excellent read Poet, many thanks.

[Tyson.]

Ali.

He would of broke Louis' record if he wasnt banned.

[Joeyzagz]

Joe Louis was more dominant, but suffers from poor era.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

I voted Louis. I consider it folly to call either man a shoo-in for the #1 spot, personally.

[Nate S.]

It would be a great match but unlike Liston and Foreman and other hard hitters Ali faced Louis was faster more explosive and was a brilliant combination puncher and probably the most accurate puncher ever. I would take Louis by a late KO.