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  • #71
    Lewis has become overrated in time. Don't forget, prime Lewis was well beaten by over the hill Mercer. Lost to McCall and twice to Rahman if we include the fight that Lewis instigated in the build up when Rahman threw him around like an empty suit. Got very lucky with the cut against Vitali when he was 5-1 down to the stiff robot who Bryd KO'd. robbed of a win in the first fight vs Holyfield, but he definitely lost the rematch, and the version of Tyson he beat was no better than Vinny Maddalone. Zero powers of recovery as well as shown in his two KO losses. That being said, we are going too far back in time to compare these two fighters.

    Mark the words of the Great Nash, he got another one right yesterday after telling you all about the overrated Josh Taylor for a very long time. There are reasons Nash inducted himself (on merit) into the Boxingscene Hall of Fame, the man knows his stuff. Nash out.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

      Well that dumb quote doesn't mean anything really how he saved good energy look how they fought back then had he been in 80s-90s he would need to move way more
      I never know how to speak to you because you always bring up something that amounts to a from my perspective.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Nash out View Post
        Lewis has become overrated in time. Don't forget, prime Lewis was well beaten by over the hill Mercer. Lost to McCall and twice to Rahman if we include the fight that Lewis instigated in the build up when Rahman threw him around like an empty suit. Got very lucky with the cut against Vitali when he was 5-1 down to the stiff robot who Bryd KO'd. robbed of a win in the first fight vs Holyfield, but he definitely lost the rematch, and the version of Tyson he beat was no better than Vinny Maddalone. Zero powers of recovery as well as shown in his two KO losses. That being said, we are going too far back in time to compare these two fighters.

        Mark the words of the Great Nash, he got another one right yesterday after telling you all about the overrated Josh Taylor for a very long time. There are reasons Nash inducted himself (on merit) into the Boxingscene Hall of Fame, the man knows his stuff. Nash out.
        I'd like to read this Taylor post.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

          I'd like to read this Taylor post.
          I've written at least 10 of them over the last year or so. one of them is on this page (before the fight) https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...e-myself/page3
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          • #75
            Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

            Stop trolling dummy joe loses all 3 how does he keep a man as tall as lennox away who moved good Stop saying dumb stuff you trolls are crazy joe is destroyed fast crazy dummy

            Joe wouldnt land try watching matches instead of repeating other dummies who don't watch
            No heavyweight is as slow and lacking footwork than Rahman. How did Rahman knock Lewis out?
            Joe Louis is 20 times the fighter.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post

              I think this could happen too. But think Lewis could win a decision as well. In a 3 fight series, I like Joe to win 2, at least 1 by TKO, 1 by decision where he catches and even knocks down Lennox and Lennox keeps Joe at bay with his jab and reach to win a decision.
              No heavyweight keeps Louis at bey with reach and a jab unless their name is Ali. Louis was trained to slip that jab and counter with deadly accuracy. In turn Lewis does not have the chin to take Louis counters nor the foot speed to keep out of harms way.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

                I dunno about that.

                I could see Lennox having a hard time with 15

                I could see Joe having a hard time with a giant

                I'm gonna pus out and claim in their own era they each win....like a pansy ass. I don't have a better answer though.

                When it comes to stamina it's fair to throw 15 at and 12 round fighter but I really feel like it holds water for Joe because Louis was really efficient in his movements. I mean he hardly over or under throws anything and that control and pacing would be a rough **** to deal with for any man. IMO. That said, size is size, is size, and for how good Joe is it ian't like Lennox is your average giant. He's probably best of the giants, ever.

                So I'll be a ***** about h2h.
                No opinion on the fight - but I think much of stamina can come from the ability to relax in the ring, e.g. Foreman I vs. Foreman II.

                It's why I think Toney could get away without training for fights; his movement was always limited and judiciary.

                I see that ability, to relax, to fight in a flow, in Louis but not in Lewis. Lewis often seemed jerky and nervous in his movements and that can wear a fighter out fast.
                Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 02-27-2022, 02:36 PM.
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                • #78
                  Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post

                  No heavyweight keeps Louis at bey with reach and a jab unless their name is Ali. Louis was trained to slip that jab and counter with deadly accuracy. In turn Lewis does not have the chin to take Louis counters nor the foot speed to keep out of harms way.
                  yup lennox doesnt have the toughness to take a man like 190 shots since he never would be hit you idiot stop trolling and why is it jersey had no trouble staying away idiot

                  Jersey was the best mover in that era and the years before oh forgot that match happened huh idiot

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post

                    No heavyweight is as slow and lacking footwork than Rahman. How did Rahman knock Lewis out?
                    Joe Louis is 20 times the fighter.
                    so using that dumb quote and your a liar well idiot rah moved way better then joe and had better skill so you must had meant 20 times less which you would be right we have vid idiot

                    Cause rah moved better then joe you liar you would know that if you watched matches coming to me with lies does you no good
                    how did he beat Lewis your a idiot you wouldn't had to ask that dumb question if you watched

                    most know from Esb dumb follower quotes dont work with me and you said you know me from there so you should have seen my work

                    follower using dumb quotes other dummies using rah moved better then that whole era except jersey and rah was still more polished and used more angles to punch you dumb follower who doesn't watch stop repeating dumb quotes idiot

                    rah wasnt the only person lennox fought idiot and its mutiple other people lennox fought who moved better then the whole joe era

                    joe who was dropped by galento and took mutiple punches to drop baer yet rah would had did it in way less but joe is so called more skilled keep exposing yourself idiot

                    you like exposing yourself I see like other idiots who pretend to act like vid doesnt exist proving you crazy people wrong

                    saying how rah beat lennox off of name only and act like he didnt use good angles to punch and moved way better then they did in Joe's era you idiot that's so idiotic to compare him

                    Try watching matches instead of repeating dumb quotes idiot or you can keep saying dumb quotes and keep exposing yourself
                    Last edited by Ascended; 02-27-2022, 04:34 PM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      No opinion on the fight - but I think much of stamina can come from the ability to relax in the ring, e.g. Foreman I vs. Foreman II.

                      It's why I think Toney could get away without training for fights; his movement was always limited and judiciary.

                      I see that ability, to relax, to fight in a flow, in Louis but not in Lewis. Lewis often seemed jerky and nervous in his movements and that can wear a fighter out fast.
                      - - Two Ton trained with incessant sparring, the reason he so punch drunk today. Later in his career with the steroid violations, the biker guys he hired as trainers got him on the weights to supplement his sparring.

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