Qawi ''Holyfield Was On Juice''

[Southpaw Great]

RS: In our talks, I wanted to pick your brain and ask, since you fought both, who would have won between a young Holyfield and a slick Michael Spinks?

DQ: Who won between Spinks and Tyson? They say that styles make fights, but Spinks couldn’t deal with Holyfield. He would have been blown out before four rounds, for real; unless he wanted to have mercy on him or that kind of thing.

With Spinks, he got lucky a lot of times. With Holmes he got fortunate. With me he got fortunate because my nose was broke and I couldn’t fight my fight. I shouldn’t have taken the fight. I should have gotten my nose corrected and healed, but that something that happened. It was fortunate for him; I mean he ran and jabbed and that kind of thing, but he wouldn’t have been able to run from Holyfield or even hurt Holyfield enough to keep him off of him. Holyfield would have gotten to him, especially using the juice.

RS: Can I quote you on that?

DQ: You mean about Holyfield and the juice?

RS:Yes.

DQ: Yes, and it’s not just Holyfield and boxing, but sports period. The steroids things seem to be becoming acceptable. The public is different, and the fans are different. I look at the UFC, and I’m not overly knocking it, but it’s just like street fighting, you know? It’s like going out in an alley; you might as well go out and pick up a brick or a bat. Using steroids seems like it is being accepted in a lot of sports like it’s fair play, and it’s not.

RS: There were more whispers that Evander and Tyson used it, but there wasn’t anything loud said.

DQ: Yeah, but I’m talking about all sports now. Athleticism is not what it used to be where you dig down and have it come from your gut. You know, by working hard and using all of your natural ability, and you don’t use no enhancers and get an edge from nothing artificial. If you turn a blind eye to that, the integrity of the sport is lost. But I do still love boxing and that is why I want to come back and be and asset.

Thoughts?

Do you belive Holyfield has taken steroids in the past?

[StarshipTrooper]

Thoughts?

Do you belive Holyfield has taken steroids in the past?

It wouldn't surprise me given the rumours that have been swirling around for years now. The thing is, if Evander WAS taking roids it was after he moved up to Heavyweight and NOT when he was beating Qawi at Cruiser.

Poet

[Stab Judah]

I hate to say it since he's one of my all time favorites but there is a lot of evidence that he has.

As far as the interview goes, I think the reason we let it slide in combat sports is because you can take these things to help you train but by the time you fight it is out of your system. Thus it seems that they do not have a illegal advantage on that night, during the fight.

Boxing is all about fighting at a disadvantage anyway.
You fight people bigger, taller, stronger, faster, The macho mentality dictates that by any means possible no matter what you have in the end, I'm going to get at you.

[General Zod]

It wouldn't surprise me given the rumours that have been swirling around for years now. The thing is, if Evander WAS taking roids it was after he moved up to Heavyweight and NOT when he was beating Qawi at Cruiser.

Poet

Qawi claims that Holyfield took some kind of stimulant in that fight, around round 4.

As for Holyfield and roids he made his pro debut at 177 and now walks into the ring at 220. Thats an increase of 47 lbs of muscle while competing in an endurance sport.

[StarshipTrooper]

Qawi claims that Holyfield took some kind of stimulant in that fight, around round 4.

Foreman claimed he was drugged against Ali and the Klitlickers scream "drugged" for every Wlad loss.

As for Holyfield and roids he made his pro debut at 177 and now walks into the ring at 220. Thats an increase of 47 lbs of muscle while competing in an endurance sport.

All that means, though, is that we have good reason to have a nasty su****ion about Holyfield. It isn't PROOF per se.

Poet

[Stab Judah]

1984-11-15 177½


1985-07-20 180


1986-05-28 190

back down to 180's

until

1988-04-09 190

1988-12-09 210 [jump could have been due to cutting weight for so long]

stayed in the 210's

until
2000-08-12 221 ...against John Ruiz the most Holyfield has ever weighed in at.

Only a 11 pound gain in 12 years.

[GJC]

As for Holyfield and roids he made his pro debut at 177 and now walks into the ring at 220. Thats an increase of 47 lbs of muscle while competing in an endurance sport.

Carpntier and Langford etc fought at a fair range of weights too.
There is a fair bit of circumstantial evidence against Holy but I'm always of the mind that you can't take away a man's good name without solid proof.
Problem is these days is that the detection methods lag behind so getting solid proof is pretty hard.
Guess only thing you could say if it is as wide spread as believed then maybe everyone is on a level playing field

[sonnyboyx2]

Qawi claims that Holyfield took some kind of stimulant in that fight, around round 4.

As for Holyfield and roids he made his pro debut at 177 and now walks into the ring at 220. Thats an increase of 47 lbs of muscle while competing in an endurance sport.

David Haye?

[General Zod]

Foreman claimed he was drugged against Ali and the Klitlickers scream "drugged" for every Wlad loss.

Good point

All that means, though, is that we have good reason to have a nasty su****ion about Holyfield. It isn't PROOF per se.

Poet

What about the whole Evan Fields thing?

[sonnyboyx2]

i agree with Qawi in that ALL sports are using steroids, football & rubgy, athletics, UFC ....