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  • #61
    I will say Wilferdo Gomez because he was the total package speed power and defense

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    • #62
      Holyfield, Marciano, Ali, Frazier
      no matter how skillfull fighter is, touqhness is a different
      thing, no connections with skills

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      • #63
        Ali was definelty the toughest hands down.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by fight fan
          These were mob fixed fights!!!!! It had nothing to do with his toughness which was unquestionable!!
          Sorry to post so late in the thread. Listen, with all due respect to the opinions here about the great Lamotta, anyone who is in this game must always understand that their decisions stick with them. When Lamotta stuck himself to the canvas (even though for the mob) he understood how poorly that reflected on him. I think it was something he may have regretted. Tough or not when a boxer hits the canvas for anything other than a vicious hit or combo it reflects poorly upon them. Lamotta is one of my all time favorites too. Granted in those days the influence from the Mob could not be avoided and anyone who wanted to get ahead HAD to play ball. It's terribly unfortunate that this will reflect upon his record. Fighters like Lamotta simply would not advance in today's game. It would be considered brutal, inhumane and all that rubbish and the ref or doc would stop the fight. No way would a throwback fighting like Lamotta be able to take and keep a belt if he didn't change his style. And I don't mean just an aggressive fighter. I mean a ****in killer in gloves who's gonna take anything you got and spit it back in your face. Lamotta couldn't have a successful career in modern boxing as a fighter. He would certainly get a reputation as someone to avoid but he'd not have become a legend like his is now.

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          • #65



            LaMotta for President!!!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by tommyhearns804
              Why is Marciano on this list period?I could name 100's of fighters tougher than he is.I am a big Foreman fan and he isnt on this list.Tough is Chuvalo.Look at the greats the man fought and never went down.Ali twice.Foreman Frazier.Quarry,Bonavena,Ellis ect ect ect.Chuvalo fought the best there was and never backed down and was never knocked down.Ali could not say the same Foreman could not Frazier could not Lamotta could not.Chuvalo is the only heavyweight who could say he fought the best and was never dropped so you have to give the man some props on that.
              props to my man tommyhearns804 for knowing his stuff. george chuvalo is by far the toughest fighter in the history of the sport. no one has ever had the pleasure of putting his back on the canvas. no other boxer in the history of the sport who had a long career could say that. He was the greatest's (ali) punching bag for 27 rounds and didn't go down. smokin' joe probably dealt chuvalo the hardest punch of his career that KNOCKED HIS EYE SOCKETS OUT OF PLACE. he still stood up. the most thunderous puncher in the history of boxing could'nt send him smashing on to the canvas, aka "big" george foreman. so just as ali is the greatest, johnson is the most historically important, and liston is the most feared, chuvalo is the toughest, PERIOD.

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              • #67
                3 Toughest Fighters in History

                1. Joe Frazier: Went through 3 gruelling fights with Ali and still was not knocked out. His loss to Foreman was tough to bare, but Foreman would have killed anyone with the roll he was on. He got up from so many knockdowns that it was a miracle George didn't kill him.

                2. Muhammad Ali: As mentioned above, he had 3 World Wars with Frazier and survived. He did what Frazier couldn't and defeated Foreman, but he played rope-a-dope for the majority of the fight. He outsmarted Foreman, rather than outpunching him.

                3. Rocky Balboa: I had to put at least one fictional selection in the list. Rocky had the toughest head of anyone in boxing history. He survived 2 vicious 15-round fights with Apollo Creed to win the title on their second outing. After being knocked out in the 2nd round by Clubber Lang, he came back to return the favour in the rematch to regain his title. He then faced the Soviet monster Ivan Drago, the man who had killed Apollo Creed in the ring. He took it to the Russian and knocked him out in 15 brutal rounds. After retiring, he fought Tommy Gunn in a street fight and emerged victorious. Confirmed to be making a return in the film "Rocky Balboa", Rocky is the eternal hardman of boxing.

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                • #68
                  legend killer, you are an idiot. putting a fictional character next to hall of fame greats is insulting to those greats, the sport of boxing, and this forum. what happened? your small brain couldn't have thought of another REAL fighter? and da fact that you didn't even put chuvalo, which is fact without a shadow of a doubt the toughest, leads me to believe you know crap about boxing.

                  p.s.
                  ali would have knocked the crap out of balboa!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    legend killer, you are an idiot. putting a fictional character next to hall of fame greats is insulting to those greats, the sport of boxing, and this forum. what happened? your small brain couldn't have thought of another REAL fighter? and da fact that you didn't even put chuvalo, which is fact without a shadow of a doubt the toughest, leads me to believe you know crap about boxing.

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                    ali would have knocked the crap out of balboa!
                    My first two picks were legitimate, but picking Rocky was merely for my own personal amusement. Besides, if Rocky was real, the amount of punches that he has taken would make him the toughest thing to ever grace the Earth. But I have put Ali and Frazier first, because I respect them enough to put them over a movie character.

                    P.S. Grow a sense of humour. I mentioned the word "fictional" for a reason.

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                    • #70
                      what about george chuvalo?

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