Felix trinidad

[gran campeon]

Surprisingly, wrapping your hands a "little" differently has a lot to do with how much power you have.

Look at his power during the Hopkins fight, when his abnormal wraps were removed. He didn't even buzz Hopkins.

thats because he never landed a huge punch against hopkins......even when hopkins ko'd him he blocked a big left hook and hit him with a counter.......

[Fiasco]

Vernon Forrest and James Page werent highly ranked contenders yet during Tito's reign, Wilfredo Rivera and Jose Luis Lopez? yes they fought great champions in Whitaker and Quartey but so is Trinidad who beat:

Luis Garcia (2 losses only to Blocker and Meldrick Taylor by decision, Tito knock him out in 1 round)
Camacho (more experience than tito that time)
Anthony Stephens (who would fought for a 154 lbs title a couple of times after Tito beat him)
Campas and Carr were undefeated and had more fights with Trinidad.

do you expect frenchman Patrick Charpienter to be better than all of Tito's opponents, the fact is all four of them, Whitaker, Quartey, DLH and Trinidad cleaned up the Welterweight division when they all finally slug it out in 1999.
It was Quartey who was in the losing end with cancelled fights with Whitaker and Trinidad in '98.

Forrest and Page were ranked within the top 10 for 2 years, before Trinidad decided to run away from the division.

You're right about Garcia. He was one of the very few fighters Trinidad faced who were ranked within the top 10.

Camacho and Stephens weren't. And since when does a title challenger mean they're a great fighter?

While Charpentier wasn't a better fighter, he was still a top 10 ranked welterweight.

Trinidad deserved to lose against DLH, beat a past-prime Whitaker, and ran away from the division when fighters like Forrest and Mosley were coming up.

You also have to question the legitimacy of his wins. We don't know whether it was him or his abnormal hand-wraps.

[HitmanHattonAY]

what does everyone think of him as a fighter and his style of fighting

does anybody no where he got the name tito from

he is a great fighter

[*RAZOR RUIZ*]

A very overrated fighter who's power came from abnormal handwraps.

haha i was gunna say the same thing. he must have not worn those against hopkins

[Thread Stealer]

Fair enough, then. That still leaves the many other fighters, though.

I don't necessarily blame Trinidad for the fights not materializing but I do think that much of his WW reign was wasted on relatively weak opposition. Particularly from 1995 through 1998.

[Emon723]

Forrest and Page were ranked within the top 10 for 2 years, before Trinidad decided to run away from the division.

You're right about Garcia. He was one of the very few fighters Trinidad faced who were ranked within the top 10.

Camacho and Stephens weren't. And since when does a title challenger mean they're a great fighter?

While Charpentier wasn't a better fighter, he was still a top 10 ranked welterweight.

Trinidad deserved to lose against DLH, beat a past-prime Whitaker, and ran away from the division when fighters like Forrest and Mosley were coming up.

You also have to question the legitimacy of his wins. We don't know whether it was him or his abnormal hand-wraps.

Arguably, nobody wants to faced Tito during his Welter reign, he was once quoted as saying the hardest part in boxing was negotiations, he wanted to fight Whitaker in '97, Trinidad was having weight problems but opted to stay at WW to make a superfight with Dela Hoya.

you are saying he ran when Forrest and Mosley were coming up, I seriously doubt if the late Forrest would want a piece of Tito around '96-'97. and James Page was actually considered as an opponent for Tito after he defeated David Reid in 2000.

As for the hand wraps, did Whitaker ever complain that Trinidad was hitting him with bricks, who connected 54% of his punches to Sweet pea, whereas Whitaker's opponents total percentage against him were about 20%.

[gibo]

Felix Trinidad is an ATG. He beat Vargas (who hoja wouldn't fight until TITO KO'D him) same with Mayorga. And always fought UP the divisons against all champions. Losing only to hobkins, JONES, and WRIGHT. Whereas "your golden girl" your boxing god, fought against smaller SSM, PBF, and PACMAN and got her *SS SPLATTERED ON A PLATER!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[frankenfrank]

Tito was also very accurate puncher. But going to the wraps thing, Tito didn't use a hardened substance to wrap his hands like Resto or Margarito. That implies that he used something foreign and illegal.

Tito's handlers could've exchanged bags with any of his opponents and they would've had the same result because it was the method used not to wrap his hands which was questioned.

This method btw was only legal in the other states he fought in but not in Vegas. Also let us not forget that many fighters including DLH were called out and asked to rewrap their hands for having technically illegally wrapped there hands in a manner not complicit with the local sanctioning body.

There is a world of difference between DLH/Tito and Rest/Margarito.

very good post which i am just using as a reference at this moment.