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I picked Marciano for the textbook swing because his finished pose after a straight right hand looked like something the sport could use as a mascot. Similar to the way the NBA used a model of Jerry West to mark it's symbol. It was either him or Pistol Pete...oh well, that's why this is a boxing forum.
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george foreman, the man had incredible power, his power was impeccableComment
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Why has Tyson's early career KO of John Whatever Johnson gotten so much credit in this forum ?
BIG DEAL !
Johnson was a NOBODY....a nobody who Tyson outweighed by double digits !
Basically....Tyson starched a CRUISERWEIGHT BUM.
Yeah, it was impressive to see, but not impressive upon review.Comment
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Thanks for giving Sonny Liston a mention. He was powerful and feared. I think your right putting Foreman first and Liston second. Good list!Comment
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Micheal Jack Johnson, by the way.
I think it was the look on the poor guy's face after he took a shot to the midsection and went down. When the referee was questioning him as to whether or not he wanted to continue, he very reluctantly looked at Tyson with glossy eyes and shook his head up and down. His face was screaming, "Aw crap! I have to put up with punches like that all night?!" The impressive part of the knockout comes when Tyson hits him so fast that you can't even see it until they did the slow motion recap. His speed was often overlooked; it still is even when looking back on it.
Back to the main venue, I would consider the term "strongest" to include more than just power. There would be explosiveness, purity, and knockdown/knockout frequency. I list them accordingly (and I'm known to change from time to time), pound for pound as a heavyweight:
1. George Foreman
2. Charles "Sonny" Liston
3. Mike Tyson
***NOTE*** These first three could hit with either hand in any form and it could take a fighter down. The following are notables and specifics.
4. Joe Frazier's left
5. Rocky Marciano's right
6. Earnie Shavers when he wasn't down
7. Joe Louis when he felt like it
8. Jack Dempsey, without cheating
9. Tua, even though I never liked him
10. Evander Holyfield's headComment
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Mike Tyson was a nobody.Originally posted by jabsRstiffComment
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Mike Tyson was a nobody, except...
-he drew more fans to the sport than anyone in it's history.
-his fights drew more viewers than anyone else's to date
-even after prison he was still a big draw, because he was either going to knock his opponent out, or do something absolutely crazy
-he has one of the most dramatic stories in sports history
-he was arguably the most exciting fighter to watch
-he broke the consecutive knockout record held by Marciano
-when fighters had become far more athletic in the 80's than they had ever been before, and their training regimes were more grueling and technical than ever, he emerged on top (regardless of the lack of names)
-oh yeah, he was the youngest heavyweight champion ever...
Mike Tyson? Who was he?Comment
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Originally posted by Brassangel
Which consecutive KO record was that ?Comment
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Shavers. Come on with the Tyson stuff. Tommy Morrison hit harder than Tyson. Not that Morrison was better. He just killed guys with his left hook to the body. Thats a hard hitter.Comment
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whoever made this thread is dumb. jack johnson was a light hitter like ali, why the hell is he up there, joe frazier definetly didnt hit harder then foreman. shavers and maybe ron lyle deserve honorable mentions, hell you could even put dempsey up there before johnsonComment
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