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  • sonnyboyx2
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    Heavyweight Tournement

    Hyperthetical 8 man Heavyweight Tournement to give us something to discuss...All contestants are in their prime, please explain how you see these fights unfolding:

    A/. Mike Tyson
    B/. Joe Frazier
    C/. Muhammad Ali
    D/. George Foreman
    E/. Vitali Klitschko
    F/. Larry Holmes
    G/. Evander Holyfield
    H/. Lennox Lewis

    ROUND 1

    Fighter A vs Fighter H

    Fighter B vs Fighter G

    Fighter C vs Fighter F

    Fighter D vs Fighter E

    ROUND 2

    Winner of A vs H vs Winner of D vs E

    Winner of B vs G vs Winner of C vs F

    FINAL
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    #2
    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
    Hyperthetical 8 man Heavyweight Tournement to give us something to discuss...All contestants are in their prime, please explain how you see these fights unfolding:

    A/. Mike Tyson
    B/. Joe Frazier
    C/. Muhammad Ali
    D/. George Foreman
    E/. Vitali Klitschko
    F/. Larry Holmes
    G/. Evander Holyfield
    H/. Lennox Lewis

    ROUND 1

    Fighter A vs Fighter H

    Fighter B vs Fighter G

    Fighter C vs Fighter F

    Fighter D vs Fighter E

    ROUND 2

    Winner of A vs H vs Winner of D vs E

    Winner of B vs G vs Winner of C vs F

    FINAL
    What a good pick....

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    • Schmerzen
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      #3
      Round 2 : Tyson vs Foreman and Holyfield vs Ali

      Final : Tyson vs Ali

      Winner : Ali


      i think ali is the best of all in that list.
      if he had a bad chin, then i would have bet on tyson winning the tournament.

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        #4
        Originally posted by T3dBundy
        Round 2 : Tyson vs Foreman and Holyfield vs Ali

        Final : Tyson vs Ali

        Winner : Ali


        i think ali is the best of all in that list.
        if he had a bad chin, then i would have bet on tyson winning the tournament.
        Tyson isn't beating Foreman, no way. Cus even told him so, probably why Mike avoided the senior version.

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          #5
          Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
          Tyson isn't beating Foreman, no way. Cus even told him so, probably why Mike avoided the senior version.
          did u watch ron lyle vs foreman?

          prime tyson has a good chance to beat foreman.

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            #6
            Originally posted by T3dBundy
            did u watch ron lyle vs foreman?

            prime tyson has a good chance to beat foreman.
            Not the same style matchup. Foreman is a stylistic nightmare for short-armed pressure fighters (hint: Tyson's a short-armed pressure fighter). Tyson may be light-years better than Lyle but Lyle isn't facing the same kind of style disadvantages as Tyson would be. "Styles make fights" is exaggeration but there ARE a small number of prohibitive stylistic matchups and Foreman versus pressure fighters happens to be one of those few.

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              #7
              Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
              Hyperthetical 8 man Heavyweight Tournement to give us something to discuss...All contestants are in their prime, please explain how you see these fights unfolding:

              A/. Mike Tyson
              B/. Joe Frazier
              C/. Muhammad Ali
              D/. George Foreman
              E/. Vitali Klitschko
              F/. Larry Holmes
              G/. Evander Holyfield
              H/. Lennox Lewis

              ROUND 1

              Fighter A vs Fighter H

              Fighter B vs Fighter G

              Fighter C vs Fighter F

              Fighter D vs Fighter E

              ROUND 2

              Winner of A vs H vs Winner of D vs E

              Winner of B vs G vs Winner of C vs F

              FINAL
              Based on the matches...

              R.1: Lewis, Frazier, Ali (by split...great fight), Foreman
              R.2: Foreman, Ali
              R.3: Ali

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                #8
                Originally posted by poet682006
                Not the same style matchup. Foreman is a stylistic nightmare for short-armed pressure fighters (hint: Tyson's a short-armed pressure fighter). Tyson may be light-years better than Lyle but Lyle isn't facing the same kind of style disadvantages as Tyson would be. "Styles make fights" is exaggeration but there ARE a small number of prohibitive stylistic matchups and Foreman versus pressure fighters happens to be one of those few.

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                i know foreman would usually beat styles like floyd pattersons and fraziers, but tyson hit harder + had a faster movement than both.
                i see tyson hiding between foremans arms, nd throwing right uppercuts to the chin and when it gets toodangerous,he would use his fast footwork to get away.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by T3dBundy
                  i know foreman would usually beat styles like floyd pattersons and fraziers, but tyson hit harder + had a faster movement than both.
                  i see tyson hiding between foremans arms, nd throwing right uppercuts to the chin and when it gets toodangerous,he would use his fast footwork to get away.
                  By most accounts of folks near Tyson, Foreman was the only fighter he never personally wanted any part of. Can't remember who the quote came from (maybe Rudy Gonzalez) but Tyson allegedly once told King, who was selling Tyson on a Foreman fight in China "You want him so bad, you fight him." Tyson was always a little bit of a head case even when he was on; if he had doubts, Foreman would have exploited them.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by T3dBundy
                    i know foreman would usually beat styles like floyd pattersons and fraziers, but tyson hit harder + had a faster movement than both.
                    Tyson's punching power isn't going to be an issue here and Frazier was no slouch in the power department. Tyson will still have to eat Foreman's bombs to get close enough to use his power. As an aside; Tyson faster than Patterson? No way.


                    Originally posted by T3dBundy
                    i see tyson hiding between foremans arms, nd throwing right uppercuts to the chin and when it gets toodangerous,he would use his fast footwork to get away.
                    Tyson's footspeed was straight ahead not laterally or backwards. He isn't going to turn into Ali all of a sudden and dance away from Foreman's punches. Hiding between Foreman's arms? Naw. He gets to mid-range and George uses his superior strength to push Tyson back outside, probably with a bomb following close on it's heels: An old Foreman trick (he tried it on Ali in fact).

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