Tell me how do you think each of these fights may end

[sonnyboyx2]

please no.. i heard enough of this ****.
carnerra was a hype job of fixed fights ..
vitali's even bigger (taller) with better chin (not the best chin , but not as his brother's) , i even consider wlad a favorite to stop louis , vitali's even taller with a better chin , he will reach louis before louis reaches him , and louis did not have a very good chin himself , if by some twisted chance louis reaches vitali , his punch will lose all of its snap along the long way up , and will not effect vitali seriously . vitali will abuse him , wlad too , but against wlad , louis has some minor puncher's chance , against vitali , not even this.

you must be a little midget... your argument here is based on height "my brother is bigger than your brother"... Vitali & Wlad are the same height as Buddy Bear and Primo Carnera, Louis brutally destroyed Baer in the opening round

[SplitSecond]

never thought i'd see so many tyson late ko predictions
tyson was too mentally weak for that i think, chances are if you can make it past 6 rounds against tyson your probabley not gonna be ko'd




also confident ibeabuchi would ko tyson, just my two cents

[frankenfrank]

never thought i'd see so many tyson late ko predictions
tyson was too mentally weak for that i think, chances are if you can make it past 6 rounds against tyson your probabley not gonna be ko'd




also confident ibeabuchi would ko tyson, just my two cents

it will be a surprise if tyson stops tua , but a major surprise if it will be past the 4th round. tua , however , could stop tyson at every stage of the fight , especially inside 10. but tyson wins over louis by stoppage is a very realistic scenario. i quite agree with what you say about what you said about lasting the first 6 rounds with tyson , but i don't think he was mentally weak , not especially at least. maybe not the strongest menatlly , but not weak.

[sonnyboyx2]

it will be a surprise if tyson stops tua , but a major surprise if it will be past the 4th round. tua , however , could stop tyson at every stage of the fight , especially inside 10. but tyson wins over louis by stoppage is a very realistic scenario. i quite agree with what you say about what you said about lasting the first 6 rounds with tyson , but i don't think he was mentally weak , not especially at least. maybe not the strongest menatlly , but not weak.

here is a link for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JRgun7wG8

why would Mike Tyson who KOd half of his career opponents in the opening round not be able to KO David Tua?.... How could Tua stop Tyson when no-one ever KOd Tyson without a tremendous breaking-down process going on first... what is it that you seem to have againt Joe Louis ? ... The guy was without doubt a legendary fighter and the longest reigning champion in history, he is also regarded by many as the greatest heavyweight who ever lived yet you are claiming some guy who lost virtually every round each time he fought an elite fighter would KO the great Joe Louis in a couple of rounds... please get a grip of yourself before coming out with ridiculous statements like those because they will not be tollerated on this forum by the regular members who i can assure you know their stuff and will brand you as some kind of idiot who does not qualify to be posting in this section, so please take heed

[CarlosG815]

also confident ibeabuchi would ko tyson, just my two cents

Show me something to suggest this. And winning a decision over Tua isn't going to cut it.

This guy was a journeyman knockout king and nothing more. Not even close to Mike's level.

[frankenfrank]

here is a link for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JRgun7wG8

i saw it long ago , more than one time , tua was about 19 at that time , fighting a much much taller grown man with a lot more experience , a professional amateur , tyson is nothing similar to savon.
he can't do what savon did and savon can't do what he did , very simple.
the grown tua had much more experience and a much better chin , and again , tyson's no savon.

why would Mike Tyson who KOd half of his career opponents in the opening round not be able to KO David Tua?

tua's chin is better than holyfield's , and than tyson's too , , tua's punch was better than holyfield's and than tyson's too , those were those elbows of tyson , that brought him many of his wins and reputation , tua did not need elbows cause he had a better punch.

.... How could Tua stop Tyson when no-one ever KOd Tyson without a tremendous breaking-down process going on first...

again , tua had a better punch and a better chin than anyone who ever stopped tyson.

what is it that you seem to have againt Joe Louis ? ... The guy was without doubt a legendary fighter and the longest reigning champion in history, he is also regarded by many as the greatest heavyweight who ever lived yet you are claiming some guy who lost virtually every round each time he fought an elite fighter would KO the great Joe Louis in a couple of rounds... please get a grip of yourself before coming out with ridiculous statements like those because they will not be tollerated on this forum by the regular members who i can assure you know their stuff and will brand you as some kind of idiot who does not qualify to be posting in this section, so please take heed

what i have i have against these lunatic posters who enshrined louis as a saint. the guy was down against supermiddleweights.
most of his era's hw division could have made 168 in our time.
marciano could make 175. charles probably even 160 , and 168 at every point of his career without difficulty had there been such a division in his time and he chose to compete in it. walcott was a 175 too . louis himself could have made 190 at almost every point of his career and 200 for sure , a legitimate cw. schmelling was a light cruiserweight himself.
still , louis was bigger than most of his opponents , just like ali , holmes , foreman , valuev and the klitschkos were , but small enough to be quickly destroyed by tua.
as i said , louis is overrated , he would have his arse handed to him had he competed at hw at the 70's , at tyson's time and also today.
today is a weak era but the klitschkos and especially vitali are not weak for any time. wlad could have ruled in holmes time , vitali at any time.
and really i am not a fan of them , it does not take a great deal of talent to be so much bigger than your opponents and to abuse them , that's why i will never accept p4p recognition to all those big champs i mentioned , louis included (he was big for HIS time).
the most overrated fighter in these forums.
who's fault is it ?
those farts fault.
let them get f u c k ed.
cheers.

[StarshipTrooper]

i saw it long ago , more than one time , tua was about 19 at that time , fighting a much much taller grown man with a lot more experience , a professional amateur , tyson is nothing similar to savon.
he can't do what savon did and savon can't do what he did , very simple.
the grown tua had much more experience and a much better chin , and again , tyson's no savon.

tua's chin is better than holyfield's , and than tyson's too , , tua's punch was better than holyfield's and than tyson's too , those were those elbows of tyson , that brought him many of his wins and reputation , tua did not need elbows cause he had a better punch.

again , tua had a better punch and a better chin than anyone who ever stopped tyson.

what i have i have against these lunatic posters who enshrined louis as a saint. the guy was down against supermiddleweights.
most of his era's hw division could have made 168 in our time.
marciano could make 175. charles probably even 160 , and 168 at every point of his career without difficulty had there been such a division in his time and he chose to compete in it. walcott was a 175 too . louis himself could have made 190 at almost every point of his career and 200 for sure , a legitimate cw. schmelling was a light cruiserweight himself.
still , louis was bigger than most of his opponents , just like ali , holmes , foreman , valuev and the klitschkos were , but small enough to be quickly destroyed by tua.
as i said , louis is overrated , he would have his arse handed to him had he competed at hw at the 70's , at tyson's time and also today.
today is a weak era but the klitschkos and especially vitali are not weak for any time. wlad could have ruled in holmes time , vitali at any time.
and really i am not a fan of them , it does not take a great deal of talent to be so much bigger than your opponents and to abuse them , that's why i will never accept p4p recognition to all those big champs i mentioned , louis included (he was big for HIS time).
the most overrated fighter in these forums.
who's fault is it ?
those farts fault.
let them get f u c k ed.
cheers.

The shortbus let them off early today I see

Poet

[DeepSleep]

please no.. i heard enough of this ****.
carnerra was a hype job of fixed fights ..
vitali's even bigger (taller) with better chin (not the best chin , but not as his brother's) , i even consider wlad a favorite to stop louis , vitali's even taller with a better chin , he will reach louis before louis reaches him , and louis did not have a very good chin himself , if by some twisted chance louis reaches vitali , his punch will lose all of its snap along the long way up , and will not effect vitali seriously . vitali will abuse him , wlad too , but against wlad , louis has some minor puncher's chance , against vitali , not even this.

Height isn't as big of a factor in a as Reach. You’re constantly using the K'bros height as a key point against Ali and Holmes. Holmes and Ali have the same reach as the Klitschko’s and far better jabs. Against both they couldn’t they can't just coast on the outside like they often do against the limited competition in the current heavyweight competition with their jabs. Couple that with the fact that they both give up so much foot/hand speed that I can't see either of them giving Ali or Holmes much of a fight(I'd say these two are absolutely terrible match up's for the Klitschko's).

Wladmir Klitsckho was stopped by Corrie Sanders, Ross Purity and Lamon Brewster. Brewster and Sanders both have the same reach as Louis, if they could get inside of Wlad and chop him down I'm sure Joe Louis could do it and in an even more brutal fashion.

Vitali is a much tougher opponent than Wlad for Joe but even he is just too slow in both hand and foot speed to keep Louis off of him, why are you so sure Vitali could hit Joe? Louis's was only stopped by ATG's in Marciano and Schmeling and as good as Vitali is he is not in there league in terms of hand or foot speed. Vitali would keep Joe off of him for the first 3-4 rounds decently but afterwards his stamina fades and Louis gets inside fairly often. Once Louis is inside it's all over as Vitali doesn't have the footwork or the inside skills to effectively deal with Joe and gets tattooed by Louis’s punches and either gets stopped or UD’d badly.

I think if either Klitschko could land a really clean bomb they could stop Louis but I don't think they could land it personally as I don’t think they have the skills of Marcianio or Schmeling.

[JAB5239]

please no.. i heard enough of this ****.
carnerra was a hype job of fixed fights ..
vitali's even bigger (taller) with better chin (not the best chin , but not as his brother's) , i even consider wlad a favorite to stop louis , vitali's even taller with a better chin , he will reach louis before louis reaches him , and louis did not have a very good chin himself , if by some twisted chance louis reaches vitali , his punch will lose all of its snap along the long way up , and will not effect vitali seriously . vitali will abuse him , wlad too , but against wlad , louis has some minor puncher's chance , against vitali , not even this.

Carnera's fight with Jack Sharkey when he won the title wasn't fixed. The heart he showed against Max Baer was 100% real too. His fight with Louis wasn't fixed either.

You are ignoring what I am saying. Carnera and the K bros. have very similar styles. Can you deny this? And if Louis could reach the likes of Carnerra and Buddy Baer he could do the same with the Klits.

[JAB5239]

Height isn't as big of a factor in a as Reach. You’re constantly using the K'bros height as a key point against Ali and Holmes. Holmes and Ali have the same reach as the Klitschko’s and far better jabs. Against both they couldn’t they can't just coast on the outside like they often do against the limited competition in the current heavyweight competition with their jabs. Couple that with the fact that they both give up so much foot/hand speed that I can't see either of them giving Ali or Holmes much of a fight(I'd say these two are absolutely terrible match up's for the Klitschko's).

Wladmir Klitsckho was stopped by Corrie Sanders, Ross Purity and Lamon Brewster. Brewster and Sanders both have the same reach as Louis, if they could get inside of Wlad and chop him down I'm sure Joe Louis could do it and in an even more brutal fashion.

Vitali is a much tougher opponent than Wlad for Joe but even he is just too slow in both hand and foot speed to keep Louis off of him, why are you so sure Vitali could hit Joe? Louis's was only stopped by ATG's in Charles, Marciano and Schmeling and as good as Vitali is he is not in there league in terms of hand or foot speed. Vitali would keep Joe off of him for the first 3-4 rounds decently but afterwards his stamina fades and Louis gets inside fairly often. Once Louis is inside it's all over as Vitali doesn't have the footwork or the inside skills to effectively deal with Joe and gets tattooed by Louis’s punches and either gets stopped or UD’d badly.

I think if either Klitschko could land a really clean bomb they could stop Louis but I don't think they could land it personally as I don’t think they have the skills of Charles, Marcianio or Schmeling.

Good post. One correction though.....Louis was only stopped by Schmeling and Marciano, and many think the first stoppage was before his prime when he didn't train properly for this fight. We all know the Marciano stoppage was when he was 87 and escaped from the retirement home.