Prime Roy Jones beats every LHW in history

[BennyST]

Roy got knocked down, he got right back up, smiled... and continued to go after del valle for the rest of the fight. I never said he hadn't been knocked down... but he was not rocked, or wobbling all around like in the Danny Green fight.. Roy was just a **** fighter?

Huh? Sorry mate, you lost me.


You don't think he was rocked in that fight? One thing Jones was very good at was acting not hurt, like Mayweather, let me tell you though, Jones was badly hurt against De Valle. You can't see it in his movement. You can see it in his smile.

@ you for thinking Jones wasn't rocked when he got knocked down. Getting knocked down is just a little bit worse than being rocked. Mayweather was rocked against Corley. Jones was ****ing knocked down and hurt against De Valle. Big difference.

[THE REED]

Huh? Sorry mate, you lost me.


You don't think he was rocked in that fight? One thing Jones was very good at was acting not hurt, like Mayweather, let me tell you though, Jones was badly hurt against De Valle. You can't see it in his movement. You can see it in his smile.

@ you for thinking Jones wasn't rocked when he got knocked down. Getting knocked down is just a little bit worse than being rocked. Mayweather was rocked against Corley. Jones was ****ing knocked down and hurt against De Valle. Big difference.

He wasn't hurt

LOL @ "You couldn't see it... but I knew."


Sure thing.

[BennyST]

He wasn't hurt

LOL @ "You couldn't see it... but I knew."


Sure thing.

What? Take it easy fella. You're being too defensive about this. I'm not saying any of the **** you're thinking I am.

I'm not saying I can see but you can't. I am saying it was very easy to see that he was in fact quite bloody hurt. Maybe you're seeing what you want to see because he smiled. Of course when every boxer smiles after being knocked down that means they aren't hurt.

Anyway, I think I'll leave you to your sensitive Jones madness. No point in even trying to discuss it.

Oh, and BTW, go back to the first post. It was De Valle I was saying was too **** to do anything. Too sensitive to see what being written mate. Relax.

[THE REED]

What? Take it easy fella. You're being too defensive about this. I'm not saying any of the **** you're thinking I am.

I'm not saying I can see but you can't. I am saying it was very easy to see that he was in fact quite bloody hurt. Maybe you're seeing what you want to see because he smiled. Of course when every boxer smiles after being knocked down that means they aren't hurt.

Anyway, I think I'll leave you to your sensitive Jones madness. No point in even trying to discuss it.

Oh, and BTW, go back to the first post. It was De Valle I was saying was too **** to do anything. Too sensitive to see what being written mate. Relax.

He was hurt in the Danny Green fight, with wobbled legs, swaying on the ropes... taking 5 seconds to get up... thats hurt.

He stood straight up within 2 seconds, walked forward and then del valle smothered himself. There was nothing indicating he was hurt.

I thought you said "he was too **** to do anything" meaning Roy. My fault on that.

[DeepSleep]

I always thought of Roy Jones Jr. at his best at SMW not LHW. At LHW I'd favor a few guys to beat him.

Roy Jones chin is solid; the problem with him is that throughout his career he never really learned to correctly block punches, he simply used his freakish reflexes to avoid them. Once he got older his reflexes faded but he still tried avoiding punches by pure instincts. This led to him getting clocked by punches without him even having an idea that they were coming. Even the most granite chinned fighters will get in trouble if they get clocked by punches that they don't even know are coming. Jones’s chin is not great but not terrible it is simply average.

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My guess would be that all of them wanted a shot at Jones at a reasonable purse.

So you can only guess that Jones avoided them. You seem pretty convinced for being guessing.

[SplitSecond]

Lou De Valle put him down and hurt him real bad. He was just a **** fighter that couldn't do anything about it. Or was that not in his prime?

Anyway, I don't think Jones' chin was bad at all. He did though have a sweet spot that if hit, he was going down. He just never got hit there during his prime apart from by De Valle. Yes, many fighters go through their whole career without getting hit there, or get hit once and go down.

It is only about whether you get hit on a certain spot. Jones was good enough to rarely get hit on that spot until he had slowed a bit. I personally don't think it had to do with his weight drain stuff. He was probably going to get tagged there whether or not he was drained.

If those punches landed (Johnson, Tarver, Green) landed on Jones in his prime I'm positive he would have had the same trouble with them that he did later. He may have gotten out of that trouble in Green's case and would have gone on to win, but the others? I don't think so.

there's no sweet spot, jones has been ko'd to the chin, ko'd t the back of the head, ko'd right on the ear/side of the forehead aka temple

yea, if johnson could keep landing on a prime jones all through the fight and wear him down then maybe, i would'nt say he went down from the johnson punch just because it landed on a sweet spot, he got worn down

and jones was stunned, if he was badly hurt he would'nt have been walkin in straight line like it was nothin, the smile to del valle looks like it came because of embarrassment, you can see him gettin a bit frustrated with the ref because he's sayin he's "aight" but the ref keeps askin and he was still lookin to counter with his hands down, if he was badly hurt the first punch honey boy threw would've showed how his legs were gone



and another thing about your sweet spot theory, did you ever watch jones-castro? i know he wasn't a big puncher, but it doesn't always take a big puncher to knock someones head off

now people are here argueing about jones not fighting big punchers, that's why his chin wasn't exposed earlier, well man, i think that shows that even you(not necessarily you, but in general) deep down believe jones had a solid chin, and it'd take a huge puncher(mcclellan, jackson etc that can KO someone with an iron chin anyway) to have exposed jones

somehow reggie johnson who put tarver on his ass, put toney on his ass, ko'd guthrie with a right hook(and proceeded to land that right hook on jones) isn't enough, it takes gerald mcclellan and julian jackson

[IMDAZED]

Huh? Sorry mate, you lost me.


You don't think he was rocked in that fight? One thing Jones was very good at was acting not hurt, like Mayweather, let me tell you though, Jones was badly hurt against De Valle. You can't see it in his movement. You can see it in his smile.

@ you for thinking Jones wasn't rocked when he got knocked down. Getting knocked down is just a little bit worse than being rocked. Mayweather was rocked against Corley. Jones was ****ing knocked down and hurt against De Valle. Big difference.

He wasn't badly hurt against Del Valle. He seemed pretty fine, actually. Unless a smile is what you're going by.

[BattlingNelson]

So you can only guess that Jones avoided them. You seem pretty convinced for being guessing.

How's that? I said that those were the fighters he didn't fight.

[BattlingNelson]

He wasn't badly hurt against Del Valle. He seemed pretty fine, actually. Unless a smile is what you're going by.

It was not a push down. It was a knock down. Jones couldn't control his legs. He was hurt alright. So you think he was pretty fine? Well he survived that's right but he was definetely hurt.

I wouldn't put any emphasis on whether the fighter smiles or not. Fighters are liars in the ring. Doing everything they can to fool their opponent. Here Jones tries to fool Del Valle. I don't know he suceeded in that, but evidently he did fool some posters on this board...