Best HW of the 80s - Tyson or Holmes?

[Verstyle]

IMO i had Holmes beating Witherspoon, but i had him losing to Williams & Norton, i also thought he was very fortunate against Bonecrusher Smith (1).... This is a tough call between Tyson & Homes.. but when i think about Holmes vs Spinks/Tyson vs Spinks/Tyson vs Homes... i gotta go with Mighty Mike.

Holmes vs Tyson ITV version.. in the ring after the fight when interviewed by Reg Gutteridge Holmes says,"i could never have beaten Mike Tyson"... The HBO version when Tyson was interviewed in the ring said,"if Holmes was in his prime i wouldn`t have stood a chance".... 2 great sportsmen

You should hear Holmes talk about Mike when Mikes Ringside was on. He was going crazy, saying if he was younger he would of won, he got his hand stuck in the ropes.

[CarlosG815]

In your list you have Holmes over Frazier and Tyson.

[Verstyle]

I can see that fight like the Tyson- Tillis fight, lot of jabs from Holmes. I think he can frustrate Tyson a lot. I have it 7-5 Tyson due to Tysons ring aggression that would edge him the win.

[them_apples]

I can see that fight like the Tyson- Tillis fight, lot of jabs from Holmes. I think he can frustrate Tyson a lot. I have it 7-5 Tyson due to Tysons ring aggression that would edge him the win.

you also have to keep in mind that a top fighter brings his A game to his biggest fights.

I mean, Ali lost to spinks because he didn't bring his A game. Generally, good boxers realy push themselves in big fights.

Style wise Michael Spinks should have been able to do what Tillis did only much better. Same goes for Holmes. You can bet Tyson really prepared himself for those fights, just like Ali did against Foreman. Watching Ali prior to the Foreman fight I wouldn't have given him a chance at all.

[CarlosG815]

PLEASE MR. HOLYFIELD DON'T HURT ME NO MORE!

As usual, you bring nothing to a debate, just simpering hero-worshipping nuthuggery. Dude, you got a hammerlock on Leg-Iron Mike's gonads so hard you're embarrassing your fellow nuthuggers
Poet

Damn I'm good. I beat all the washups Tyson knocked out 3 years ago. I'mma bad ass. Uh oh, now I got my ass kicked by mediocre competition. Maybe I'm not the real deal after all. I hit like a cruiser weight, but why'd the Lawd give'd me such a big dome?


I got's an idea! A feather fisted ***** like me can throw my monstrous dome around and have a chance at being THE REAL DEAL CONTENDER!!!

Eat this!
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"hehe ref thought it was a accident. You like dat dome Mikey? lol Sry"
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"LOL he pissed off now, I got dis in the bag. OH NOES MEH EAR!!!"

::And he goes on. A true champion, holding onto his title for his next 3 fights before losing it::

"Damn I'm a bum. 1 win in my last 5 fights. These fella's is learnin bout meh dome!!

I'mma have to train hard for my next fight!"

::And so it goes. Evander trains day after day, slamming his head against a wall. He gets dumber, but his head all the stronger, ready to do some serious cranial damage to his next opponent::



"Sorry Hasim, it was an accident."

"Damn that was close barely pulled off this win and damn near split that mans skull in two! I gotsa train harda!!"

::But his attempts were futile, as he got his ass kicked in his next 3 fights. The toll his cranium took from the countless butt's throughout his career was undeniable. Unfortunately, the damage suffered to his own brain leads him to believe he can still fight.::

[StarshipTrooper]

Damn I'm good. I beat all the washups Tyson knocked out 3 years ago. I'mma bad ass. Uh oh, now I got my ass kicked by mediocre competition. Maybe I'm not the real deal after all. I hit like a cruiser weight, but why'd the Lawd give'd me such a big dome?

I got's an idea! A feather fisted ***** like me can throw my monstrous dome around and have a chance at being THE REAL DEAL CONTENDER!!!

Eat this!

"hehe ref thought it was a accident. You like dat dome Mikey? lol Sry"

"LOL he pissed off now, I got dis in the bag. OH NOES MEH EAR!!!"

::And he goes on. A true champion, holding onto his title for his next 3 fights before losing it::

"Damn I'm a bum. 1 win in my last 5 fights. These fella's is learnin bout meh dome!!

I'mma have to train hard for my next fight!"

::And so it goes. Evander trains day after day, slamming his head against a wall. He gets dumber, but his head all the stronger, ready to do some serious cranial damage to his next opponent::

"Sorry Hasim, it was an accident."

"Damn that was close barely pulled off this win and damn near split that mans skull in two! I gotsa train harda!!"

::But his attempts were futile, as he got his ass kicked in his next 3 fights. The toll his cranium took from the countless butt's throughout his career was undeniable. Unfortunately, the damage suffered to his own brain leads him to believe he can still fight.::

Awwwww, here come the excuses from the Tyson KoolAid Drinkers Drink that potion Junior!

Poet

[GameGod]

I would take Tyson very narrowly due to his immense dominance in these periods. Had it been a prime Holmes, the prospect of a fight would have been mouth-watering, but I would go with Tyson by U.D..

[The Iron Man]

You should hear Holmes talk about Mike when Mikes Ringside was on. He was going crazy, saying if he was younger he would of won, he got his hand stuck in the ropes.

Haha you gotta love that, i remember watching that and just laughing. He said something of the line of i was lining him up for the uppercut and got my arm caught in the ropes which left me open!!

[ZONE]

Awwwww, here come the excuses from the Tyson KoolAid Drinkers Drink that potion Junior!

Poet

This is exactly what the self-proclaimed poet does. He tries to back out of an argument that he starts.

[crold1]

A case could be made for either guy really. Holmes best period in the 80s, 80-82, was just as good as Tyson's late 86-89. They were both dominant, both won a MEGA fight, but stylistically are different so the means to ends are different. Because he was at and then passing peak, we have the end of Holmes best years happening in the decade too whereas Tyson's fall doesn't start until the 90s (depending on how one counts decades; technically it would be 81-90 but it's not done that way for sports awards stuff).

In retrospect, because I believe Holmes to be the better and greater fighter, I might look at the early 80s as giving him an edge but Tyson's late 80s run is why he's going to the Hall next year.

A better debate might be who was the third best of the decade...does Evander's late 80s run trump Witherspoon's decade?