Bert Sugar Top 10 Heavyweights

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  • REDEEMER
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    #31
    Ali
    Louis
    Dempsey
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Marciano
    Klitschko
    Frazier
    Johnson
    Foreman

    For me .

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #32
      Originally posted by GJC
      Sort of begs the question, who did Dempsey and Louis fight between the publication of the two lists to alter their standings?
      - -Henry already provided the simple truthful answer.

      Sad that he's in his ancient years now and not voted in the IBHOF yet over the numerous scallywaggish they manage to shoehorn in every year.

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      • billeau2
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        #33
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Why are you responding to a post that was ten years ago which is over a decade ? Wow you really are out there why would you have to claim it’s great to see him ,the thread seemingly has been here forever when it started . Ha . I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better to just start your own thread about the subject and then attach his name to your post with a question since it’s 2021 ?
        Hassup looks into the section and posts sporadically, even years apart at times...

        Thanks for the tip on how to post.

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        • louis54
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          #34
          Good list but should have kept dempsey first as he was a phenomenon

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #35
            Originally posted by louis54
            Good list but should have kept dempsey first as he was a phenomenon
            - -Sugar a bighat and cigar vaudeville act the the eastern centric press who controlled boxing loved. As such sugar loved his little porkies like Pep winning a rd without throwing a punch.

            Recall the orchestrated massive blizzard of letters Nat recieved after getting whooped by Frazier. They were trying to beat him into including Ali in his all time top ten that only Nat had as the author of the Ring bible.

            By 1991 Sugar had been waylaid and mugged tens of thousands x over his list that we see as likely his last before death.

            Alway been Joe Louis as #1 for me as he outstrips Ali in every important category from inception to end. That part is easily provable and otherwise inarguable.

            But of course naysayers gonna neigh like the silly little fillies they be...forever more, forever more...

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            • Dr. Z
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              #36
              Originally posted by The Stone Roses
              terrible list....Bert Sugar is only a journalist, he's about as credible as Brian Kenny.....Larry Holmes?? Lennox Lewis???....and Joe Louis ahead of Ali???? c'mon who are you kidding

              Well, this is Bert's list and he's a big Jack Dempsey fan so...

              Tunney at #5? Charles in the top 10?

              No Lewis or Holmes? Um, okay.

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              • cfang
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                #37
                My top 15 as of today

                Ali
                Louis
                Johnson
                Holmes
                Lewis
                Foreman
                Holyfield
                Wlad
                Frazier
                Tyson
                Liston
                Bowe
                Vitali
                Marciano
                Dempsey

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z
                  Well, this is Bert's list and he's a big Jack Dempsey fan so...

                  Tunney at #5? Charles in the top 10?

                  No Lewis or Holmes? Um, okay.
                  - -What will U list look like 30 years hence to the few boxing fans only going back to the Tyson days?

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                  • The Old LefHook
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                    #39
                    Sugar was dandy and a myth builder, nothing more. I don't miss him at all and never took anything he said seriously. His list is also idiotic. Joe Louis could not even make the top ten on a realistic list.

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                    • slicksouthpaw16
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                      #40
                      I couldn't take it seriously when I seen Charles and Tunney, but not Holmes or Lennox. Automatic disqualification lol

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