How high do you rank Larry Holmes in your all time rankings

[Lord Finesse]

I have him ranked as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all-time.

[JAB5239]

My list changes frequently but here it is....

12. frazier
11. Dempsey
10. Marciano
9. Holyfield
8. Liston
7. Tyson
6. Foreman
5. Lewis
4. Johnson
3. Holmes
2. Ali
1. Louis

[cooper5]

If you rank the heavyweights by skill and accomplishments he belongs in the top 3 0r 4. If you rank by popularity maybe not.

[Gettin Jiggy]

My list changes frequently but here it is....

12. frazier
11. Dempsey
10. Marciano
9. Holyfield
8. Liston
7. Tyson
6. Foreman
5. Lewis
4. Johnson
3. Holmes
2. Ali
1. Louis

why is marciano so low? he was a more accomplished HW than Liston, and Tyson

[Earl-Hickey]

In the top 10, second half of.

It's a shame he was sandwiched between Ali and Tyson really.

[JAB5239]

why is marciano so low? he was a more accomplished HW than Liston, and Tyson

Both faced better prime fighters than Rocky, in my opinion. Liston in particular thoroughly cleaned out the top 10 and was till made to wait for a shot at the title. He should have been champ in 1958. Tysons wins over Spinks and Holmes are on par with Rocky's biggest wins and he was the youngest man to ever capture a heavyweight title. That to me says more than Rocky's 49-0. Funny thing is.....I'm a bigger fan by far of the Rock than I am either Tyson or Liston. Its just the way I see it.

[Lord Finesse]

Both faced better prime fighters than Rocky, in my opinion. Liston in particular thoroughly cleaned out the top 10 and was till made to wait for a shot at the title. He should have been champ in 1958. Tysons wins over Spinks and Holmes are on par with Rocky's biggest wins and he was the youngest man to ever capture a heavyweight title. That to me says more than Rocky's 49-0. Funny thing is.....I'm a bigger fan by far of the Rock than I am either Tyson or Liston. Its just the way I see it.

I'd like to comment that Spinks was out of action for a year and Holmes for nearly two years.

[JAB5239]

I'd like to comment that Spinks was out of action for a year and Holmes for nearly two years.

Very true. would you say that is comparative to the wear and tear Ezzard Charles had on him at the time he faced Marciano? Or the age and amount of fights Joe Walcott and Archie Moore had when they fought Rocky?

[Lord Finesse]

Very true. would you say that is comparative to the wear and tear Ezzard Charles had on him at the time he faced Marciano? Or the age and amount of fights Joe Walcott and Archie Moore had when they fought Rocky?

Charles and Walcott were both ranked in the top 10, when Marciano fought them. Moore was the reigning light heavyweight champion. Plus, they were all active.

[JAB5239]

Charles and Walcott were both ranked in the top 10, when Marciano fought them. Moore was the reigning light heavyweight champion. Plus, they were all active.

Charles was at the end of a long career that saw him take on some of the best fighters in history. Had it been 5 or 6 years earlier Ezzard may very well had won. Walcott was 38 and 39 and in his 70th and 71st fights, his last fights. Moore was 39 with well over 150 at that time I believe.

I am not trying to discredit Rocky, the man was great. But I think Tyson edges him by a few spots. Spinks was the lineal heavyweight champ at the time and the man who stopped Holmes from breaking Marciano's record (though controversially) and Holmes I would bet was still a top 10 fighter at the time and better than the 38 year old version of Walcott. When I combine this as well as the fact that Tyson was the youngest titlist ever.....it becomes my opinion that he edges Rocky all time. That isn't even taking in how I think they match up head to head.