Mayweathers only best achievement was when he beat hatton...apart from that hes fake never been truly tested or knocked down......
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Mike Tyson Was NOT An Inside Fighter
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It's really quite simple, Tyson doesn't fight on the inside so he is not an inside fighter. Neither were any other of Cus D'Amato's fighters. His teachings were based on the "peek-a-boo" stance, bobbing & weaving, moving in and out along with the use of combinations. He didn't train his fighters to fight like Henry Armstrong or Joe Frazier who got on their opponent's chest and stayed there.
Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres did the exact same thing as Tyson.
Last edited by TheGreatA; 11-25-2009, 11:32 AM.
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Originally posted by TheGreatA View PostHe wasn't an inside fighter.
George Chuvalo:
And Tyson. He’s a tough kid. He walks right in. He’s that kind of a guy. He’s got lots of balls too. I like Tyson. I’d like to meet Tyson and show him a couple of things. I could help Mike.
His problem is he doesn’t know how to fight on the inside. If you take a look at his fight with Buster Mathis, Jr., he exposed that. There’s a chi nk in the armor. He’s too straight up on the inside. If he ever pulled his right leg back, his whole upper body would be at a forty five degree angle. He’s have his head on the other guy’s chest. He’d be safe. The other guy would have no room for any leverage and Mike would have all the leverage. His stance works against him on the inside. He’s easy to push back and he can’t fight when he’s going backwards. But Mike is a helluva an athlete. He’s very quick, got great reflexes and punches like a bazooka. He’s the only guy out there in the heavyweights who can give you goosebumps.
At his best he fought well on the inside when his opponents werent tying him up and he wasnt being lazy.
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He was not an inside fighter. Tyson just gave the illusion he was because he was good from mid range and he had devastating power which left people with that impression because he would brutalize people.
He was really dangerous from mid range but he was never an inside fighter imo, Mike Tyson himself had said he did not like fighting inside.
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Originally posted by Bob Anomaly View PostThe Buster Mathis fight didnt prove anything. He was coming back after prison, he had totally lost the skills that made him a great fighter by then. He wasnt bobbing and weaving or throwing combinations.
At his best he fought well on the inside when his opponents werent tying him up and he wasnt being lazy.
I think the Mathis fight does prove something. Tyson was hardly a technician on the inside and he was actually backed up by Mathis. Even when Joe Frazier was absolutely shot against Jumbo Cummings, he never forgot about fighting on the inside. That's what he did. Tyson rarely did, in his prime or otherwise.
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Just to Clear Things Up, THis isnt a Tyson Hate Video.
THis is just to Show Those who have a beleaf that he was a Great infighter that there wrong.
Thank you Great A, You seem to know the Point im trying to Make.
Tyson was a Mid-range fighter who done Most his Damage While Moving in, But done very little once in.
Now thats not to say he didnt have his moments on the inside, Ofcourse he did. But not NEARLY enough to justify Him as an Infighter.
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Originally posted by TheGreatA View PostWhich wasn't often.
I think the Mathis fight does prove something. Tyson was hardly a technician on the inside and he was actually backed up by Mathis. Even when Joe Frazier was absolutely shot against Jumbo Cummings, he never forgot about fighting on the inside. That's what he did. Tyson rarely did, in his prime or otherwise.
Originally posted by 0Rooster4Life0 View PostJust to Clear Things Up, THis isnt a Tyson Hate Video.
THis is just to Show Those who have a beleaf that he was a Great infighter that there wrong.
Thank you Great A, You seem to know the Point im trying to Make.
Tyson was a Mid-range fighter who done Most his Damage While Moving in, But done very little once in.
Now thats not to say he didnt have his moments on the inside, Ofcourse he did. But not NEARLY enough to justify Him as an Infighter.
He just wasnt a classic infighter.
I dont know if FN4 have a category for mid-range explosive KO puncher? Tyson probably fits more into the infighter category than any other.
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mike tyson was a inside fighter,only to opponents that he felt needed good body punishment,tyson if he had a better jaw or the ability to overcome a knockdown and have the desire to get up and continue fighting with the rage and anger of a bull who was about to trounce on a matador at the bull fights, that he always exhibited during his bouts right from the start of the first round, he would of been the greatest fighter of all time
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Naw he was a mid-range fighter.He didn't do anything when inside because he rested; reason for the clinching and starting the clinch. As much as he did he needed a rest. Throwing power punches more then half the time is very exhausting especially the power punches that you're trying to knock someone out with.
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Tyson was essentially a mid-range fighter who preferred fighting at that distance so he could get maximum leverage on his punches. If you watch his fights closely even during his prime years Tyson initiated the majority of the clinches on the inside. Why? Because when you clinch the ref steps in and breaks you, which puts Mike back out at his preferred range without him have to work and fight his way out. To me that's just smart tactics on Tyson's part because letting the ref do the job without having to work for it conserves energy especially when you consider Tyson was usually the smaller man in the fight.
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