Pick a fight we can all watch tonight.

[JCO]

I would be interested in partcipating.

[Dynamite Kid]

I would be interested in partcipating.

Cool, hopefully we can get a few more posters to watch this to.

[Shadows]

Yeah man, I really am sorry about keeping you up. I was watching the 11th round, and was like, ****, it's past 3 AM where he is.

I've got no problem with Castillo-Mayweather I. I had Castillo up by four last time, so it'd be interesting to score again.

I also haven't scored these in a while, or have yet to score them:

Eubank-Benn II
Eubank-Watson I
Barrera-Morales I (this is for you, DK )
Holyfield-Qawi I

[Dynamite Kid]

Yeah man, I really am sorry about keeping you up. I was watching the 11th round, and was like, ****, it's past 3 AM where he is.

I've got no problem with Castillo-Mayweather I. I had Castillo up by four last time, so it'd be interedting to score again.

I also haven't scored these in a while, or have yet to score them:

Eubank-Benn II
Eubank-Watson I
Barrera-Morales I (this is for you, DK )
Holyfield-Qawi I

I tried to hang on as long as i could but i thought damn! i gotta get to bed, only got to see your post this morning but its looks pretty accurate to me. Toney did land cleaner punches but McCallum was also landing consistently throughout, its like the Valuev vs Haye fight, even though Haye was fairly inactive so was Valuev, only Haye was landing clean shots and Valuev was not really connecting very often at all, if Toney had been relatively inactive but landing the better shots like Haye and McCallum was like Valuev, IE also relatively inactive and landing very little then i can see why Toney won, but McCallum clearly outworked him throughout.

Okay then Castillo v Mayweather is on for tonight

And!! Barrera vs Morales if we have the stamina for it lol

Ha Ha cheers Shadows, MAB wins 13 rounds to zero

BTW my card for Haye vs Valuev

1 Haye

Haye landed a few jabs to the belly and a right hook behind the elbow, Valuev
missed most of the jabs he attempted.

2 Haye

He landed the two best punches of the round, a right hand and
a left hook right hand, Valuev landed to the chest with the jab but not enough imo.

3 Haye
Haye clearly landed the cleaner punches.

4 Valuev

Valuev was more active, he landed with left hook whilst haye was pulling
out, he also landed short right, he used the jab consistently, hayes combos
missed for the most part.

5 Haye

Close round where Haye landed jabs to the belly, Valuev also landed
jabs to the chest but in the middle of round Haye scored a combo,
Valuev landed a combo towards the end to even it up again, but Haye landed
a clipping shot right at the end to take the round imo, close though.

6 Valuev

Valuev did better here, he landed the jab throughout the round to body and head, he
also landed a nice left hook early, he landed some liver shots to. Haye landed one
clean left hook but a lot of his raids were blocked.

7 Valuev

Hardest round to score so far, Haye landed some shots but was way too
inactive, Valuev landed some jabs and countered haye's right had counter
once in the round, he also landed jabs to the body and head, Haye tried a combo
at the end but virtually missed all.

8 Haye
Very inactive round for both, that said Haye closed it out with the
cleaner shots in the last min or so.

9 Haye
Haye landed 3 clean right hands here.

10 Haye
Haye landed the cleaner work for me, he landed an inside left hook, right
hook to the body and another cuffing right hand toward the end, Watt & Dark scored
it for valuev, but i dont know why.

11 Valuev
I thought Haye was too inactive here, meanwhile Valuev was not that effective
either but he was consistent and i was looking for a sympathy round for him anyway.

12 Haye
He landed the cleaner shots and wobbled Valuev, Valuev caught him on
the tail end of a left hook but that is the only punch i can remember him
landing.

[Shadows]

I tried to hang on as long as i could but i thought damn! i gotta get to bed, only got to see your post this morning but its looks pretty accurate to me. Toney did land cleaner punches but McCallum was also landing consistently throughout, its like the Valuev vs Haye fight, even though Haye was fairly inactive so was Valuev, only Haye was landing clean shots and Valuev was not really connecting very often at all, if Toney had been relatively inactive but landing the better shots like Haye and McCallum was like Valuev, IE also relatively inactive and landing very little then i can see why Toney won, but McCallum clearly outworked him throughout.

Okay then Castillo v Mayweather is on for tonight

And!! Barrera vs Morales if we have the stamina for it lol

Ha Ha cheers Shadows, MAB wins 13 rounds to zero

BTW my card for Haye vs Valuev

1 Haye

Haye landed a few jabs to the belly and a right hook behind the elbow, Valuev
missed most of the jabs he attempted.

2 Haye

He landed the two best punches of the round, a right hand and
a left hook right hand, Valuev landed to the chest with the jab but not enough imo.

3 Haye
Haye clearly landed the cleaner punches.

4 Valuev

Valuev was more active, he landed with left hook whilst haye was pulling
out, he also landed short right, he used the jab consistently, hayes combos
missed for the most part.

5 Haye

Close round where Haye landed jabs to the belly, Valuev also landed
jabs to the chest but in the middle of round Haye scored a combo,
Valuev landed a combo towards the end to even it up again, but Haye landed
a clipping shot right at the end to take the round imo, close though.

6 Valuev

Valuev did better here, he landed the jab throughout the round to body and head, he
also landed a nice left hook early, he landed some liver shots to. Haye landed one
clean left hook but a lot of his raids were blocked.

7 Valuev

Hardest round to score so far, Haye landed some shots but was way too
inactive, Valuev landed some jabs and countered haye's right had counter
once in the round, he also landed jabs to the body and head, Haye tried a combo
at the end but virtually missed all.

8 Haye
Very inactive round for both, that said Haye closed it out with the
cleaner shots in the last min or so.

9 Haye
Haye landed 3 clean right hands here.

10 Haye
Haye landed the cleaner work for me, he landed an inside left hook, right
hook to the body and another cuffing right hand toward the end, Watt & Dark scored
it for valuev, but i dont know why.

11 Valuev
I thought Haye was too inactive here, meanwhile Valuev was not that effective
either but he was consistent and i was looking for a sympathy round for him anyway.

12 Haye
He landed the cleaner shots and wobbled Valuev, Valuev caught him on
the tail end of a left hook but that is the only punch i can remember him
landing.

It was a close fight, and I could see either guy getting it, but the scores for Toney were very, very wide.

Yeah, Toney just seemed apprehensive and fought in spurts a lot during many rounds and it cost him on my card. It's a shame because his shots had more pop on them, which could be the reason he was favored by the judges. McCallum on the other hand was active throughout, jabbed, and worked the body, as you'd expect. He simply out hustled Toney.

There weren't many eye catching shots and flurries either, which makes it a bit harder to score. Both guys did a good job at picking off and slipping shots. Like you said, this was a fight between two elite, world class boxers.

Yeah, I'll watch Mayweather-Castillo I, but I have to work tonight and won't begin watching until 2:30 GMT. So if you want to watch it and post your card tonight, and I'll post my when I'm done, we can discuss in the morning.

A shutout, eh? What do you think this, Arsenal versus S****horpe?

I haven't watched Haye-Valuev yet. I'm dreading it actually.

[Dynamite Kid]

It was a close fight, and I could see either guy getting it, but the scores for Toney were very, very wide.

Yeah, Toney just seemed apprehensive and fought in spurts a lot during many rounds and it cost him on my card. It's a shame because his shots had more pop on them, which could be the reason he was favored by the judges. McCallum on the other hand was active throughout, jabbed, and worked the body, as you'd expect. He simply out hustled Toney.

There weren't many eye catching shots and flurries either, which makes it a bit harder to score. Both guys did a good job at picking off and slipping shots. Like you said, this was a fight between two elite, world class boxers.

Yeah, I'll watch Mayweather-Castillo I, but I have to work tonight and won't begin watching until 2:30 GMT. So if you want to watch it and post your card tonight, and I'll post my when I'm done, we can discuss in the morning.

A shutout, eh? What do you think this, Arsenal versus S****horpe?

I haven't watched Haye-Valuev yet. I'm dreading it actually.

Agree.

Yeah i will just post mine then you can post after.


Haye vs Valuev is the worst fight ive seen since, well..........Valuev vs Holyfield.

[Dynamite Kid]

Castillo vs Mayweather

1 Mayweather
more active, scored with the jab to the body and head throughout

2 Mayweather (very close)
Spirited rounds by Castillo but Mayweather may have just about
kept him out

3 Mayweather (Lederman scored this for Castillo on one combo by the looks of it)
He controlled the round with the jab for the most part, Castillo put a
lot of pressure on toward the end landed a left hook to the body and
a right that may have sneaked through, still like Mayweather's activity though

4 Mayweather
Mayweather's jab and counter right hands done it for me, Castillo put
pressure on again towards the end but he did not land signicently enough
thoughout the round to take it imo.

5 Castillo (Close) (Castillo landed 16, threw 40, Mayweather landed 13, threw 41)

I thought he out huscled Mayweather in this round and landed some good shots towards the end. Castillo
seemed to land the harder shots to

6 Castillo ( Castillo landed 24 punches in the round doubling PBF's output in that round, he
scored 19 out of 29 power shots in the round)
Easilly Castillo's best round, he also landed the best punch of the round, a hard right hand.

7 Castillo (75 power shots to only 30 for PBF, Castillo threw more than twice as many)
bigger round for Castillo, Floyd got nailed quite a few times with some solid shots in this round

8 Mayweather (10/8 round)
Mayweather beat Castillo to the punch and was more active throughout, Castillo had a point
taken for hitting on the break,

9 Castillo

I thought Castillo outhuscled Mayweather in this round and landed some hooks to the body and
busted him with double right hands, he put on lots of pressure in this round, they exchanged counter
right hands early and Castillo had the last say in the exchange.

10 Castillo (10/8)
Castillo landed some hard shots particularly to the body, he succeeded in breaking Mayweather's rythm.

11 Castillo (Very close round) Castillo, 35 out of 68, Mayweather 20 out of 50
I thought Castillo closed better although they went punch for punch inside

12 Castillo
more active landed good shots to.


Tough tough fight to score. One thing Castillo like Sosa, Chavez succeeded
in against Mayweather is, they broke up Mayweather's rythm, only Castillo landed a number of solid
shots on Mayweather unlike Sosa, Chavez. I thought Castillo won but if a couple of the rounds swung
to Mayweather then i can see that, but i cant say i think he won the fight, he was not effective enough
to have won the fight imo, Castillo was on his ass the entire fight after the 4th round and was landing
the harder shots.



Castillo landed 203, threw 506, 40%

Mayweather landed 157, threw 448, 35%

Power punches

Castillo landed 173, threw 377, 46%

Mayweather landed 66, threw 151, 44%

[Shadows]

Castillo-Mayweather I

1. Mayweather, 10-9
Myaweather controls the round with his jab and left hooks.

2. Mayweather, 10-9
Close round. Myaweather landed the cleaner shots over the course of the round. Castillo was more active and was more successful in pushing Mayweather back, but it wasn't enough for me.

3. Mayweather, 10-9
Mayweather landed cleans jabs to the body, along with a few nice counter shots. Castillo had a good last round, as he began to pressure more.

4. Mayweather, 10-9
Mayweather did the same as last round; jabs to the body and counter shots.

5. Castillo, 10-9
Close round. Both guys have good portions of the round, but Castillo nicked it down the stretch.

6. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo backed up Floyd more and more, and landed some nice right hands and body shots in the process.

7. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo's best round. Pressured the entire round, and made Mayweather uncomfortable. Castillo landed three nice left hooks, along with two good right hands.

8. Even, 9-9
Close round. Castillo landed hard body shots, and Mayweather was too inactive for me. Point deducted from Castillo.

9. Castillo, 10-9
Nice exchange at the start, both guys landed nice right hands. Castillo pressured and worked the body well. Mayweather threw few and far between.

10. Castillo, 10-8
Mayweather started well, but faded quickly. Castillo landed well over the rest of the round. Point deducted from Mayweather.

11. Castillo, 10-9
Close round. A lot of fighting on the inside. Both landed their share of shots on the inside, but Castillo's have a bit more on them.

12. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo far more active, and Floyd fought in spurts again.

That's how I scored it. It may seem a bit wide, but there were three or four close rounds where you could certainly make the case for Mayweather.

I thought Castillo won it on his pressure, activity, and the fact that his shots seemed harder. Mayweather was way too inactive for me in many of the rounds and fought in spurts. I really think had he not hurt his right hand, he would have won on my card.

It's funny, this fight was similar in some ways to Toney-McCallum II.

[Dynamite Kid]

Castillo-Mayweather I

1. Mayweather, 10-9
Myaweather controls the round with his jab and left hooks.

2. Mayweather, 10-9
Close round. Myaweather landed the cleaner shots over the course of the round. Castillo was more active and was more successful in pushing Mayweather back, but it wasn't enough for me.

3. Mayweather, 10-9
Mayweather landed cleans jabs to the body, along with a few nice counter shots. Castillo had a good last round, as he began to pressure more.

4. Mayweather, 10-9
Mayweather did the same as last round; jabs to the body and counter shots.

5. Castillo, 10-9
Close round. Both guys have good portions of the round, but Castillo nicked it down the stretch.

6. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo backed up Floyd more and more, and landed some nice right hands and body shots in the process.

7. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo's best round. Pressured the entire round, and made Mayweather uncomfortable. Castillo landed three nice left hooks, along with two good right hands.

8. Even, 9-9
Close round. Castillo landed hard body shots, and Mayweather was too inactive for me. Point deducted from Castillo.

9. Castillo, 10-9
Nice exchange at the start, both guys landed nice right hands. Castillo pressured and worked the body well. Mayweather threw few and far between.

10. Castillo, 10-8
Mayweather started well, but faded quickly. Castillo landed well over the rest of the round. Point deducted from Mayweather.

11. Castillo, 10-9
Close round. A lot of fighting on the inside. Both landed their share of shots on the inside, but Castillo's have a bit more on them.

12. Castillo, 10-9
Castillo far more active, and Floyd fought in spurts again.

That's how I scored it. It may seem a bit wide, but there were three or four close rounds where you could certainly make the case for Mayweather.

I thought Castillo won it on his pressure, activity, and the fact that his shots seemed harder. Mayweather was way too inactive for me in many of the rounds and fought in spurts. I really think had he not hurt his right hand, he would have won on my card.

It's funny, this fight was similar in some ways to Toney-McCallum II.

Thanks for posting this Shadows.


It was an extremely hard fight to score because in some of the late rounds Mayweather tried to steal rounds with single shots for like half a min of the round, whilst Castillo dictated the pace and put hella pressure on him some
rounds, he clearly succeeded in breaking Mayweather's rhythm up for me.


I found it difficult to see whether Castillo was landing clean at times, did you have that problem to?

I agree, you could of made an argument for Mayweather and scored the fight a draw, or had Mayweather just edging it by one round, that said i think Castillo implemented what he wanted to do better than what Mayweather did, he dictated the pace and landed the harder shots, so i tend to think he deserved the benefit of the doubt in the fight and in most of those closer rounds. Castillo did no worse than a draw, Mayweather did no better than a draw imo. It was a tough fight to score though.

[Shadows]

Thanks for posting this Shadows.


It was an extremely hard fight to score because in some of the late rounds Mayweather tried to steal rounds with single shots for like half a min of the round, whilst Castillo dictated the pace and put hella pressure on him some
rounds, he clearly succeeded in breaking Mayweather's rhythm up for me.


I found it difficult to see whether Castillo was landing clean at times, did you have that problem to?

I agree, you could of made an argument for Mayweather and scored the fight a draw, or had Mayweather just edging it by one round, that said i think Castillo implemented what he wanted to do better than what Mayweather did, he dictated the pace and landed the harder shots, so i tend to think he deserved the benefit of the doubt in the fight and in most of those closer rounds. Castillo did no worse than a draw, Mayweather did no better than a draw imo. It was a tough fight to score though.

I definitely thought Mayweather had an injured hand, and was trying to basically have a good 30-45 seconds at the start and end, with a little in the middle. I mean when you look at the fight, during the latter rounds, he throws mainly left hooks and jabs.

Meanwhile, Castillo was pressuring, making Floyd uncomfortable, and throwing and landing more in my eyes.

I didn't really have a problem telling if Castillo was landing or not. I watched the fight on youtube (I'm running out of space on my hard drive and need to burn my fights onto a DVD) and it was a good quality, how was the quality of the video you watched? I just pay a little extra attention when watching Mayweather as he's so adept at rolling the shots and catching them with his shoulder and he keeps his right high to block left hooks. Sometimes it can be hard to tell if shots are landing on him or not if you're not paying very close attention.

All in all I think you're right. It was a fight that I thought Castillo won, but you can certainly make a case for a close points win for Mayweather.

So what's on for tonight?