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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #41
    Hearns vs Kinchen. I had it a lot closer than the judges had it, not that Kinchen won many that! rounds but he scored a KD and Hearns had a point taken in that round to make it 10/7 round. I gave Kinchen 5 rounds but some of those were sympathy rounds

    I had it a draw in the end but if pushed to give it to someone i would have given it to Hearns because he won more rounds, that KD & the point taken is what made the fight closer.

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    • Shadows
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      #42
      Sorry if anyone already mentioned these fights, but Saad Muhammad-Lopez I and II are great fights that I rarely see talked about.

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      • Silencers
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        #43
        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
        Hearns vs Kinchen. I had it a lot closer than the judges had it, not that Kinchen won many that! rounds but he scored a KD and Hearns had a point taken in that round to make it 10/7 round. I gave Kinchen 5 rounds but some of those were sympathy rounds

        I had it a draw in the end but if pushed to give it to someone i would have given it to Hearns because he won more rounds, that KD & the point taken is what made the fight closer.
        I had Hearns winning the fight too but it was an underrated one. Kinchen had Hearns rocking and reeling, it's the reason why Leonard finally decided to give him a rematch.

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        • Miburo
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          #44
          There are plenty of fights which were higher profile in the past but get mentioned little by the average boxing fan. Arguello-Escalera II, Chacon-Limon IV, Carbajal-Gonzalez I, etc.

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          • JAB5239
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            #45
            Originally posted by *Hagler*
            I thought I knew a bit about boxing until I saw Silencers post I have a long way to go to get on that kind of level
            Lol, a lot of us do. But thats what is great about these forums, you get the chance to learn from some well educated boxing fans if you're willing to keep an open mind.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Tengoshi
              There are plenty of fights which were higher profile in the past but get mentioned little by the average boxing fan. Arguello-Escalera II, Chacon-Limon IV, Carbajal-Gonzalez I, etc.
              Were fighters like Chacon and Danny Lopez ever in a bad fight? God, they are fun to watch!

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              • mhager91490
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                #47
                Originally posted by Silencers
                There are way too many to list but here are some of them IMO.

                Terry Norris vs Troy Waters
                Michael Carbajal vs Jorge Arce
                Tony Ayala vs Yory Boy Campas
                Orlando Canizalez vs Kelvin Seabrooks 1
                Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde I thought was an underrated fight
                All 3 Jeff Harding vs Denis Andries fights
                Frank Fletcher vs Clint Jackson
                Frank Fletcher vs James Green
                Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
                Frankie Liles vs Tim Littles 2
                Richard Hall vs Julian Letterlough
                Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1 & 2
                Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Richie Kates
                Erik Morlaes vs Daniel Zaragoza
                Daniel Zaragoza vs Paul Banke 2
                Bruce Curry vs Wilfred Benitez
                Mike McCallum vs Milton McCrory
                Bruce Curry vs Monroe Brooks
                Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice
                Simon Brown vs Vincent Pettway
                Michael Gomez vs Alex Arthur
                Alex Arthur vs Stephen Foster
                Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob
                Mickie Ward vs Reggie Green
                Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 & 2
                Luis Collazo vs Jose Antonio Rivera
                Kennedy McKinney vs Junior Jones
                Kennedy McKinney vs Welcome Ncita 1
                Jamie Moore vs Matthew Macklin
                Danny Hunt vs Lee Meager
                Mark Kaylor vs Errol Christie
                Daniel Santos vs Neil Sinclair
                Jorge Arce vs Hussein Hussein 1
                Rafael Pedroza vs Gustavo Ballas
                Kermit Cintron vs David Estrada
                David Tua vs David Izon
                Acelino Freitas vs Jorge Barrios
                Alex Stewart vs Michael Moorer
                Bert Cooper vs Henry Tillman
                Ray Mercer vs Bert Cooper
                Alex Stewart vs Ezra Sellers
                Bert Cooper vs Andre McCall
                Ildemar Paisan vs Geronimo Luque
                Barry Michael vs Lester Ellis
                David Walker vs Spencer Fearon
                Manuel Gomez vs Jeffrey Hill
                Luis Hernandez vs Luis Pabon
                Alfonso Gomez vs Jesse Feliciano 3
                Fulgencio Zuniga vs Jose Luis Zertuche 1 & 2
                Bobby Czyz vs Williw Edwards
                Freddie Roach vs Tommy Cordoba
                Daniel Edouard vs Willie Gibbs
                Jason Litzau vs John Nolasco
                Michael Gomez vs Carl Johanneson
                Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
                John Duddy vs Yory Boy Campas
                Antwun Echols vs Charles Brewer
                Israel Vazquez vs Oscar Larios 2
                Pernell Whitaker vs Buddy McGirt 1
                Thomas Hearns vs James Kinchen
                Carmen Basilio vs Tony De Marco 1 & 2
                Ray Mancini vs Livingstone Bramble 1
                Ray Mancini vs Alexis Arguello
                Carl Thompson vs Chris Eubank 1 & 2
                Caveman Lee vs John LoCicero
                Carl Thompson vs David Haye

                Anyways, there are much much more. Some of these fights get mentioned more than others but are still mentioned too little IMO. There should really be a sticky in the History Section about this kind of stuff, like a 'fights you have to watch before you die' thread.
                A couple of fights on your list that I remember particularl fondly are:


                Mark Kaylor-Errol Christie- Both fighters rocked heavily in the first round and it is war for the rest of the fights, Christie hits the deck a couple of more times later in the fight and it is stopped brutally. Kaylor's fans were going to be so rowdy for that fight that they were denied alchohol but they were still setting of firecrackers in the arena among other things, they were about as rowdy as a Tijijuana crowd.

                Orlando Canizales-Kelvin Seabrooks- This is a textbook performance from Canizales, breaking an opponent down throughout the fight, he had such blazingly fast feet and the angles were just beautiful. I remember the crowd got excited when Seabrooks landed those rights in the third but they didn't even phase Orlando, he was in the zone that night.

                Simon Brown-Tyrone Trice- I watched that fight earlier today and it is still as entertaining as ever, I enjoyed the late 80's-early 90's welters much more than DLH, Quartey, Trinidad and the others.

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                • Silencers
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mhager91490
                  A couple of fights on your list that I remember particularl fondly are:


                  Mark Kaylor-Errol Christie- Both fighters rocked heavily in the first round and it is war for the rest of the fights, Christie hits the deck a couple of more times later in the fight and it is stopped brutally. Kaylor's fans were going to be so rowdy for that fight that they were denied alchohol but they were still setting of firecrackers in the arena among other things, they were about as rowdy as a Tijijuana crowd.

                  Orlando Canizales-Kelvin Seabrooks- This is a textbook performance from Canizales, breaking an opponent down throughout the fight, he had such blazingly fast feet and the angles were just beautiful. I remember the crowd got excited when Seabrooks landed those rights in the third but they didn't even phase Orlando, he was in the zone that night.

                  Simon Brown-Tyrone Trice- I watched that fight earlier today and it is still as entertaining as ever, I enjoyed the late 80's-early 90's welters much more than DLH, Quartey, Trinidad and the others.
                  Kaylor-Christie was a great fight, they genuinely didn't like each other and it told during the fight and the crowd was electric which contributed to the excitement.

                  For sure that was one of Canizales' best performances, he was brilliant that night, Seabrooks, as was often the case with him, fought back valiantly. Seabrooks was like a small version of Matthew Saad Muhammad, rarely in a boring fight.

                  Brown-Trice 1 might have been one of the better welterweight title fights I have ever seen, great action and very good technique from both guys. Trice was fighting on instincts for the last few rounds of the fight.

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                  • Hagler★
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    I just had a lot of free time. Can't be picky about what fights you watch, I pretty much watched every fight that I could find when I had more time both to study the fighters and to see if that fight was a good one.

                    Just this year there have been some really good fights that people seldom talk about like

                    Anthony Mundine vs Daniel Geale
                    Martin Rogan vs Sam Sexton
                    Martin Rogan vs Matt Skelton
                    Nathan Cleverly vs Danny McIntosh (A little one sided but hey)

                    Simone Califano vs Pasqual Di Silvio
                    Giacobbe Fragomeni vs Kryzstof Wlodarczyk
                    Carlos Abregu vs Irving Garcia
                    Jon Thaxton vs Tom Glover
                    Danny Williams vs Carl Baker


                    I hear the recent Ryan Rhodes vs Jamie Moore fight was a great one but I haven't watched it yet.
                    I have seen these and the the Rhodes fight they were good fights, Rhodes really took Moore's legs away with that right hand to the point of the chin

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                    • Silencers
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by *Hagler*
                      I have seen these and the the Rhodes fight they were good fights, Rhodes really took Moore's legs away with that right hand to the point of the chin
                      Yeah, Moore showed great courage coming back the way he did after the knockdown but it wasn't enough, he was breathing through his mouth by round 4.

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