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  • #11
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
    I don't see it. More legend, promoted by secondary historians selling biographies than the GOAT.

    Which fight made him such a great fighter?

    The one punch win over Corbett is his best result, and he was getting beat up. Definite proof of his toughness no doubt.

    A dramatic comeback-drama always plays well.

    But after that, he beats a past-it Sharkey and loses to every other HW he fights.

    ATG yes, but overrated by chair historians and parade followers.
    Who called him the GOAT?
    I said he was greater than Jeffries, and I stand by that.

    The tide had turned in the Corbett fight and Corbett was fading, read the round by round reports

    Fitz should have gotten the verdict against Sharkey in their 1 st fight ,and you dismiss his ko of Ruhlin.

    Sharkey past it ? He was 26 !

    Fitz was 10 years older if Sailor Tom was past it what was Fitz? lol

    Yet you mention him losing to all the heavyweights he next fought,not actually true BTW.


    He had a further 6 fights against heavies.Losing to Jeffries,Johnson and Lang and winning over 3 novices
    At the age of 40 he wins the Lhvy title and defends it successfully against O Brien aged 41then loses it to
    O Brien aged 42..

    He is 46 when he loses to Johnson and 48 when he loses to Lang.
    I'm no historian or parade follower ,but I find your assessment comically biased.
    Last edited by Bronson66; Yesterday, 01:14 PM.

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    • #12
      i agree. I dont think jeffries beat the real Fitz

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      • #13
        Originally posted by solidman View Post
        i agree. I dont think jeffries beat the real Fitz
        He didn't beat a prime Fitz.

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        • #14
          Ruby Robert was, in my opinion, a top-10 all-time pound for pound fighter. Jeffries isn't even a top-10 all-time in his own weight class (he IS top-20 at heavyweight, though); and I probably rate Jeffries higher than most, just not as high as these roaches in here arguing that he was superman because they're desperate for whyte heroes to worship.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

            He didn't beat a prime Fitz.
            From everything I've read, Fitzsimmons was beating the ever-loving sh it out of Jeffries before breaking both hands.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Defecator II View Post

              From everything I've read, Fitzsimmons was beating the ever-loving sh it out of Jeffries before breaking both hands.
              That is the truth.39 years old Fitz,12 years Jeffries senior and 47lbs the lighter man,cut him to bits and broke his nose,but ,if Jeffries could do anything it was to be able to" take a licking and keep on ticking," Fitz smashed his hands on Jeffries.

              Hype Igoe who was ringside stated , Jeffries sustained a worse beating than Willard later did against Dempsey,

              Jeffries was one tough cookie!

              "When the challenger approached the champion a few minutes later to congratulate him, Jeffries, seated on his stool, peered up at Fitzsimmons through swollen, bleeding eyes and declared, “You’re the most dangerous man alive.”
              Last edited by Bronson66; Yesterday, 05:39 PM.

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              • #17
                Jeffries was a very tough man il say that.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by solidman View Post
                  Jeffries was a very tough man il say that.
                  No argument from me on that one!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Bronson66
                    The thread is about the comparative abilities of Fitzsimmons versus Jeffries.
                    It is not a platform for you to indulge your celebrated hatred of Jack Johnson.
                    Kindly confine yourself to the subject of the thread or F*** OFF.
                    Preferably the latter.
                    - - Need to stop porking yourself.

                    Fitz a Ring P4Per with 3 division titles, the first ever, so obviously he's better, but not at heavy, duh...

                    Jeff whooped Fitz before JJohnson, so obviously Jeff better than JJohnson...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - Need to stop porking yourself.

                      Fitz a Ring P4Per with 3 division titles, the first ever, so obviously he's better, but not at heavy, duh...

                      Jeff whooped Fitz before JJohnson, so obviously Jeff better than JJohnson...

                      You're a bit simple aren't you.lol


                      Here's a challenge for you.
                      Make a thread that is actually worth reading and doesn't consist entirely of puerile, immature insults.


                      Do you think you could do that?
                      Last edited by Bronson66; Today, 04:46 PM.

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