Tyson v Douglas - Was Tyson robbed

[solidman]

I think he was robbed because Douglas was down for about 14 seconds. The ref gave him a slow count. It would have been one of the greatest comebacks of all time.

[Willie Pep 229]

I think he was robbed because Douglas was down for about 14 seconds. The ref gave him a slow count. It would have been one of the greatest comebacks of all time.

The referee gave identical counts to both fighters. That all you can expect from a referee. Ten seconds is almost never the actual count.

There is on YouTube a split screen presentation of the referee counting over both fighters. The timing is identical.

The only difference is that Douglas rises clear eyed and Tyson wobbles

[The D3vil]

Nah, I love Mike, but it's nonsense.

A 10 count is never exactly 10 seconds.

The ref gave a reasonable count.

[Biledriver]

No. Just.....No. Knockouts are determined by the referee's count, NOT timekeeper's stopwatch.

[Willie Pep 229]

No. Just.....No. Knockouts are determined by the referee's count, NOT timekeeper's stopwatch.

I agree. But I went looking in both the MQB Rules and the Nevada Unarmed Combat: Boxing Rules, and both set of rules say "Ten Seconds."

The Nevada Rules states directly that the referee's count is official but also suggests that the time-keeper is the official count until the referee "picks up the count." The referee is expected to pick up the count, not start from "one."

MQB Rules

4. If either man falls through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, 10 seconds to be allowed him to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner, and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the 10 seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his award in favour of the other man.

Nevada Unarmed Combat Rules: Boxing

Rule NRS 467.030

1. When an unarmed combatant is knocked down, the referee shall order the opponent to retire to the farthest neutral corner of the ring, by pointing to the corner, and shall immediately begin the count over the unarmed combatant who is down. The referee shall audibly announce the passing of the seconds, accompanying the count with motions of his or her arm, with the downward motion indicating the end of each second.

2.  The timekeeper, by effective signaling, shall give the referee the correct 1-second interval for the count. The referee’s count is the official count. Once the referee picks up the count from the timekeeper, the timekeeper shall cease counting.

[Nash out]

The top and bottom of it is, not only was Tyson knocked out, he was completely outboxed for the entire fight, against a guy who is at best B-level. As the Billy Ocean song goes "When the going gets tough, Mike gets going, when the going gets rough, Tyson gets gone." Well, that's how I remember that song anyway. Nash out - His Majesty

[solidman]

He gave Douglas a very slow count. He should have counted him out.

[QueensburyRules]

The top and bottom of it is, not only was Tyson knocked out, he was completely outboxed for the entire fight, against a guy who is at best B-level. As the Billy Ocean song goes "When the going gets tough, Mike gets going, when the going gets rough, Tyson gets gone." Well, that's how I remember that song anyway. Nash out - His Majesty

- - Now Nashysan, Mike was heavily sedated on experimental Psychiatric drugs in order to get him into the ring vs Buster.

Douglas was never a viable contender for him until King and Givens and her witchy mother and Missy Desiree got their hooks into him so King could take over his $50mil retirement account...Boxing History 101 curated just for Nashysan...follow the $$$...yeah!!!

[Nash out]

- - Now Nashysan, Mike was heavily sedated on experimental Psychiatric drugs in order to get him into the ring vs Buster.

Douglas was never a viable contender for him until King and Givens and her witchy mother and Missy Desiree got their hooks into him so King could take over his $50mil retirement account...Boxing History 101 curated just for Nashysan...follow the $$$...yeah!!!

Sally Field, around that time you would have been high on the success of your recent movie (then) Steel Magnolias, co-starring Dolly Parton and Julia Roberts, to have been able to fully take in Tokyo Douglas' schooling of Mike Tyson. Tyson left the ring that night with a Diploma (for effort) from the School of Buster. Nash out - His Majesty

[max baer]

Tyson was partying all the time in japan it is amazing he could fight at all he must have been drained. But if we look at long counts maaaaan there is a history of the long count. Marciano, dempsey v tunney and it goes on and on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeaEfoExJJg this is good joe rogan discussing that tokyo fight. worth a watch. queeny wont watch it as he doesn't like modern technologies like youtube!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q8Pe7A0A this is buster discussing the tokyo bout. tyson showed us he could take an immense amount of punishment and still be there as he really took so many blows.
click this link for all video docs about that fight
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...as+documentary