Some all-time Mexico-Puerto Rico matchups…who are you taking?

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  • Dodger07
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    Some all-time Mexico-Puerto Rico matchups…who are you taking?

    Julio Cesar Chavez vs Carlos Ortiz @135

    Salvador Sanchez vs Hector Camacho @130

    Canelo Alvarez vs Felix Trinidad @154

    Oscar de la Hoya vs Wilfred Benitez @147

    Erik Morales vs Wilfredo Gomez 122

    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto @140

    Marco Antonio Barrera vs Wilfredo Vazquez 122

    Ricardo Lopez vs Ivan Calderon
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    JCC v Ortiz: Thats a rough one, I feel like JCC was a smidge better, but Ortiz was maybe better at 135

    Sanchez v Camacho: Asking Sanchez to move up in weight a little to fight the young version of Macho. If this the 130 version of Camacho I think Sanchez is too good of a boxer for him and overcomes the size and speed.

    Canelo v Tito: Tito probably outworks him, but Canelo's chin holds up against those lefthook bombs and gives Canelo a shot at a decision

    Oscar vs Benitez: tough one to call, I can see Oscar just doing more work, though maybe not landing a lot but outworking Benitez to a decision. But I can also see ODLH fading down the stretch and Benitez stealing it.

    Morales vs Gomez: Gomez, just a little bit better

    Marquez vs Cotto: Old version of Marquez vs up and coming Cotto. Didn't see much of Marquez at this weight, so I'd favor the young Cotto

    Barrera vs Vazquez: Barrera in a fun fight

    Lopez vs Ivan Calderon- Finito

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      #3
      Some excellent matchups.

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        #4
        Trinidad vs Margarito is the ONE

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          #5
          Originally posted by DeeMoney
          JCC v Ortiz: Thats a rough one, I feel like JCC was a smidge better, but Ortiz was maybe better at 135

          Sanchez v Camacho: Asking Sanchez to move up in weight a little to fight the young version of Macho. If this the 130 version of Camacho I think Sanchez is too good of a boxer for him and overcomes the size and speed.

          Canelo v Tito: Tito probably outworks him, but Canelo's chin holds up against those lefthook bombs and gives Canelo a shot at a decision

          Oscar vs Benitez: tough one to call, I can see Oscar just doing more work, though maybe not landing a lot but outworking Benitez to a decision. But I can also see ODLH fading down the stretch and Benitez stealing it.

          Morales vs Gomez: Gomez, just a little bit better

          Marquez vs Cotto: Old version of Marquez vs up and coming Cotto. Didn't see much of Marquez at this weight, so I'd favor the young Cotto

          Barrera vs Vazquez: Barrera in a fun fight

          Lopez vs Ivan Calderon- Finito
          Thanks for your picks! I agree with most of what you say.

          One of the intriguing fights for me is Cotto-JMM. I think the style matchup favors Marquez since Cotto was a bit less polished and chinny at this weight. But definitely is bigger with a massive punch and more experienced at 140.

          Gomez-Morales would be an absolute war as I don’t see Erik backing down from the massive puncher. At this weight, it’s hard to pick against Gomez though who probably is the greatest 122 lber to this day. Above this weight, Erik probably takes it as he has the bigger frame and had more success above 122

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mr Mitts
            Some excellent matchups.
            Absolutely! Both countries have given us many exciting ATGs

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              #7
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
              Trinidad vs Margarito is the ONE
              You think Marg can take Tito’s power?

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                #8
                Originally posted by DeeMoney
                JCC v Ortiz: Thats a rough one, I feel like JCC was a smidge better, but Ortiz was maybe better at 135

                Sanchez v Camacho: Asking Sanchez to move up in weight a little to fight the young version of Macho. If this the 130 version of Camacho I think Sanchez is too good of a boxer for him and overcomes the size and speed.

                Canelo v Tito: Tito probably outworks him, but Canelo's chin holds up against those lefthook bombs and gives Canelo a shot at a decision

                Oscar vs Benitez: tough one to call, I can see Oscar just doing more work, though maybe not landing a lot but outworking Benitez to a decision. But I can also see ODLH fading down the stretch and Benitez stealing it.

                Morales vs Gomez: Gomez, just a little bit better

                Marquez vs Cotto: Old version of Marquez vs up and coming Cotto. Didn't see much of Marquez at this weight, so I'd favor the young Cotto

                Barrera vs Vazquez: Barrera in a fun fight

                Lopez vs Ivan Calderon- Finito
                - - Canelo is clearly the better fighter than Tito. The list is very short of the fighters that can beat him.

                Benitez is a runner/counterpuncher not to mention a sloppy trainer. Oscar was always in shape with a much better offense than Benitez

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Canelo is clearly the better fighter than Tito. The list is very short of the fighters that can beat him.

                  Benitez is a runner/counterpuncher not to mention a sloppy trainer. Oscar was always in shape with a much better offense than Benitez
                  Oscar was better, but he just had a tendency to let fights go at the end. I don't know if it was a matter of being in shape, or coasting too early. Sometimes he just didnt finish.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeeMoney

                    Oscar was better, but he just had a tendency to let fights go at the end. I don't know if it was a matter of being in shape, or coasting too early. Sometimes he just didnt finish.
                    - - Oscar was literally Boxing's Matinee Idol with Grrls jumping him everywhere. His reputation and intelligence now seems to flown south in his current rendition.

                    Sam Langford said, "You can sweat out weight, you can sweat out whiskey, but you can't sweat out women."

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