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  • Originally posted by prinzmanspoper View Post
    Not to mention hilarious.Watching him quit against Amir Khan is always a joy to watch too.
    You dont even watch Boxing. You just watch one/two fights of a particular fighter then come on here with your assumptions and act like you know the fighter because you have watched him 2/3 times LOL

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    • Paul Williams vs Sergio Martinez

      BTW i watched the fight in Russian, so im not inclined to be swayed by HBO's interpretation. This is also the first time ive seen it because ive been too busy to get around to watching it.


      Round 1 Even
      I felt Williams was winning the round and he also knocked Martinez down,
      however Martinez flawed Williams at the end so i gave it as an even round

      Round 2 Martinez
      Martinez landed the clean effective punches in this round

      Round 3 Martinez
      Competitive round but Martinez nailed Williams with the clean shots
      Martinez is also starting to land that jab in this round.

      Round 4 Williams
      I thought Williams was just being edged out in this round, he was putting
      on lots of pressure but he forgetting about his defence and getting countered with
      clean shots, however Williams came on strong at the end and closed the round
      out well nailing Martinez

      Round 5 Williams
      Willians was more consistent and Martinez was largely inactive, he did land a few clean
      shots on Williams but Williams answered those attacks and landed some clean shots of
      his own

      Round 6 Williams
      Williams more active/consistent and scored with the cleaner shots

      Round 7 Williams
      Williams more consistent, has countered Martinez more effectively in the last two rounds

      Round 8 Martinez (very close though)
      I felt Williams was winning it even though there was not much in it, however i think he lost
      the round down the stretch as Martinez closed it out and was nailing him toward the end. Martinez
      was more aggressive in this round.

      Round 9 Williams(very close)

      Toughest round of the fight to score. Martinez dictated the pace and because he had Williams fighting his
      fight and was dictating the pace he looked!! as though he was doing better than he actually was but he was
      not really landing much effective, Williams was consistent as usual and landed a lot of short shots but he
      kept his hands moving and scored a bit more imo, he closed the round a little better to imo,

      Round 10 Martinez
      Martinez landed clean hard shots on Williams early in the round and had Williams fighting his
      fight as he continued to dictate the action. Williams is allowing Martinez to dictate the action because the
      pace has slowed down, its Williams fight when he is more active applying the pressure but its Martinez
      in a Boxing match where he can get time and space to think about what to throw

      Round 11 Martinez
      He landed some good shots in this round and dictated the pace again, Williams has shown tiredness since
      the 8th round on

      Round 12 Williams
      I felt Williams just! pulled out the last round. I liked his consistency.



      Close fight but i felt Williams won. I thought Williams won round one but because he got dropped aswell i
      gave it a draw, that said if you are going to lean toward anyone in that round i would say Williams.

      Rounds 2&3 Williams defence let him down as he was hit with the cleaner harder shots.

      I think Williams realized after round 2 & 3 that he could not let Martinez dictate the pace because he would
      lose rounds and get outboxed, as he did in rounds 2 &3, its no coincidence to me that he put lots of pressure
      on in the next round and won it, he was effective from that round on right through to round 8, however he
      paid the price for setting such a high tempo because he started to get tired, the pace dropped to where Martinez
      could dictate again and surprise surprise he started winning rounds again. Williams essentially won this with
      his workrate and consistency, however he was hit waay to cleanly at times, it showed that his defence has
      not improved all that much since the Margarito, Phillips, Quintana fights.

      Martinez could of won this fight but he could not match Williams for consistency and workrate. When the
      pace dropped he dictated the pace of the fight, he had Williams fighting his fight and hit with the cleaner harder
      shots, however like i said, when Williams turned it up he was too inactive and not as effective without time
      and space to set up his attacks.


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      Hopkins vs Ornelas

      Round 1 Ornelas (very close)

      Ornelas was more active but this round was very close because
      even though Hopkins was less active he probably landed the 3
      best shots of the round.

      Round 2 Ornelas
      Commentators said Hopkins landed the best punch of the fight, it did not
      even land, apart from that Hopkins landed 1 clean left hook and did very
      little. Ornelas outworked him imo and hit him in the clinches with some
      short punches and caught him right at the end of the round

      Round 3 Ornelas
      I thought Ornelas landed better on the inside.

      Round 4 Ornelas
      ] just feel he is more active and landing the odd short chopping punches
      on the inside.

      Round 5 Hopkins

      Hopkins best round since the 1st at landing clean effective punches

      Round 6 Hopkins
      Even better round for Hopkins he landed hard clean shots on Ornelas

      Round 7 Hopkins
      Hopkins really starting to zero in with his right hand and left hooks in
      the last few rounds.

      Round 8 Hopkins
      Hopkins closed the round out by nailing Ornelas, he dictated the pace
      of this round but needed to close it out which he did

      Round 9 Hopkins
      Hopkins took this round with his counter, particularly his counter
      uppercut

      Round 10 Hopkins closer
      Hopkins is commanding centre ring and dicating the pace and forcing
      Ornelas on the backfoot and landing with counters

      Round 11 Hopkins
      scoring with a few right hands

      Round 12 Hopkins
      Hopkins landing some really hard shots on Ornelas this round


      Ornelas started well but Hopkins seemed to do what he always does
      , which is take his time and slowly work his way into the fight to take
      control. Hopkins controlled the fight after round 4, Round 1 was close
      and could of gone to B Hop because even though he was largely inactive
      he landed the 3 best punches of the round. Round 10 could of gone to
      Ornelas if you want to be kind to him but i still scored it for Hopkins.



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      Shaun George vs Chris Henry

      Round 1 George
      Huge round for George, he hit Henry with many power shots, lots
      of right hands.


      Round 2 George
      George landing the best punches of round, clean hard right hands

      Round 3 Henry

      Clear round for Henry where he was more consistent and hurt George
      right at the end with a right hand

      Round 4 Henry
      George is way to inconsistent with his attack to win rounds

      Round 5 Henry
      clear round for Henry where he landed many right hands and
      hurt George again

      Henry wins by KO. George walked into a huge right hand he went
      down got up and was badly hurt Henry went back in and put George
      down again ref waves the fight off.

      George looked like he was gonna score a 1 round KO but after that he went
      into a shell and stopped punching, he got wobbled in round 3 and again in
      round 5. George stopped punching for no reason.

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      • Derrik Enis vs John Mackey

        Round 1 Ennis
        Ennis more accurate landed rights to the head and body

        Round 2 Ennis 10/8

        very nice counter right hand by Ennis, he has a speed advatnage

        Round 3 Ennis
        potshotted Mackey

        Round 4 Ennis
        Mackey is more consistent but he is getting countered with the
        cleaner shots, potshotted

        Round 5 Ennis

        Not much happened but Ennis closed better

        Round 6 Ennis 10/8
        Mackey was winning the round on his consistency imo but he got dropped
        to make it 10/8

        Mackey was more active but too incurate with his shots thats why the less
        active Ennis won the fight, his punches were landing clean and he got
        credit for that despite his inactivity. Ennis used his considerable speed
        advnatage and worked his offence of his defence, Mackey's offence. counterd
        with many right hands

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        Godfrey vs Hawk

        Round 1 Godrey

        Not much landed by Godfredy landed a couple of straight lefts

        Round 2 Godfrey
        Not much landed at all Godfrey closed a bit better

        Round 3 Godredy
        Neither guys are landing much at all!!

        Round 4 Godfrey
        Godfrey landed a few straight lefts here because he threw more in
        combo

        Round 5 Godfrey
        landed right hook and straight left

        Round 6 Godfrey

        Round 7 Godfrey
        Godfrey landing the odd counter here and there but not a great fight
        or a great performance imo, pretty falt

        Round 8 Godfrey

        Round 9 Godfrey

        Round 10 Hawk

        Went for it more last round and landed tw hook/up jabs, he knocked Godfrey down but was ruled a slip


        Hawk was landing the jab/hook on Godfrey and that seemed to be the only punch that was landing
        for Hawk, well its the only punch that seemed to land for Hawk. Godfrey does not look like a natural
        left hander and you can see that by how square he is and how he gets hit so easily with jabs and hooks over
        the shoulder.


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        Derrick Rossy vs Carl Drumond

        Round 1 Rossi

        bit more active

        Round 2 Rossi

        bit more active

        Round 3Rossi

        bit more active

        Round 4 Rossi


        bit more active

        Round 5Rossi

        bit more active

        Round 6Rossi

        bit more active


        Round 7 Rossi
        bit more active

        Round 8 Drumond


        Round 9 Rossi

        Round 10Rossi

        Drumond did nothing,slow foortwork inactive

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        Chazz Witherspoon vs Tony Thompson

        Round 1 Thompson
        Witherpoon controlled the pace but was not that effecitve landing
        Thomspon scored with the right hook and landed straight lefts.

        Round 2 Thompson
        Witherspoon was controlling the pace against and getting off first but
        as was the case in round 1 he was not that effecitve landing, Thompson
        took it on the straight lefts hand closed the round out

        Round 3 Thompson
        Thompson's best round landing clean punches and he was more active
        this round, Witherspoon had a better round landing but Thompson took
        over the round

        Round 4 Thompson
        Thompson waiting on Spoon and then nailing him hard,clean with right
        hook, straight left hand counters.

        Round 5 Thompson

        Spoon has been putting more pressure on in the last two rounds but
        he is still taking too many clean hard counter shots.

        Round 6 Witherspoon (Sympathy)
        Gave this too Spoon because of his consistency and pressure even though
        he still got hit with clean shots and the round possibly could of been
        Thompson's

        Round 7 Thompson
        Thompson landed some hard clean counter in this round, Spoon's defence
        is letting him down and has prolly lost him some rounds that were tight

        Rouns 8 Thompson
        Tony landing the clean effective counter, particularly the straight left

        Thompson lands the effective shots and then lands a couple of straight lefts
        that badly buckle Spoon's legs, ref gives the 8 count and Tony comes
        back in starts nailing him and the ref stops the fight and the corner is ready
        to stop it anyway



        Early on Spoon tried to Box his way in against Thompson and it was not
        working, Spoon dictated the pace of the fight for spells, particularly early, but he was not really landing very
        effecitvely in a lot of those rounds, early on Spoon was trying to go to the body first, most probably
        because of the disparity in height/reach between them, but it did not really set much up for him(Spoon)
        upstairs, he was also catching the cleaner shots for Thompson who was effective with the straight left and right hook
        over the shoulder. As the rounds wore on Spoon did what he should of been doing from round 1 imo, apply
        the nessary pressure that is vital against a left hander, he was more effective doing this but he was still losing
        rounds because Thompson was countering effectively with hard clean shots. Spoon's leaky defence probably
        lost him some of the closer rounds. In the end he took more liberties because he was behind and paid the
        price

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        • Povetkin vs Nolan

          Round 1 Povetkin
          Povetkin scored on the inside with a combo, he showed some nice speed


          Round 2 Povetkin
          Povetkin waiting patiently thinking of defence and countering
          in spurts with right hands

          3rd round, Povetkin started to let the combos fly in this round but he still steadily
          worked his way in and eventually stopped Nolan, nice short uppercut that ended
          it. Looks to me like Atlas has got him fighting more patiently and thinking
          of his defence, he seemed to fight shorter and he was looking to step off
          the line when attacking, he also showed nice hand speed

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          Prescott vs Mitchell

          Round 1 Prescott (very close)
          landed nice clean jab, and a looping right hand

          Round 2 Mitchell (close)


          Round 3 Mitchell
          Mitchell just about took the round imo, he landed some clean nice left hooks

          Round 4 Mitchell
          Mitchell bests rounds, left hooks to the body, left hooks up stairs landed

          Round 5 Prescott
          Mitchell was winning it but Prescott took the round late by closing better
          as Mitchell got over confident

          Round 6 Mitchell
          Mitchell landed well with the jab this round, landed a viscous hook
          to the body and dicctated the round ans has Prescott frustrated

          Round 7 Mitchell
          Mitchell dicated the actions and landed the best punch of the fight a solid left hook

          Round 8 Prescott
          I liked his consisteny here, he also landed some cuffin right hands, Mitchell
          was not very active but came alive at the end and could of took the round
          also

          Round 9 Mitchell
          Not much landed here i felt Mitchell just about edged it

          Round 10 Prescott
          Prescott's best round at landing clean effective punches. It seemed
          that he has stopped trying to sell out with every shot and is looking
          to box with Mitchell more, that seems to have relaxed his shoulders
          and allowed him to counter Mitchell a bit better, mitchell caught a big
          leeft hook

          Round 11 Mitchell (close)
          I had Prescott taking it but Mitchell stole it at the end imo

          Round 12 Prescott
          Prescott was more active and landed some hard shots early and nailed
          Mitchell toward the end

          Prescott was loading up from round 1 and he payed the price for it because he could not get
          off whilst he was looking for the one shot, Mitchell just kept ressetting him with lateral movement and
          he stepped inside and landed clean left hooks to the body and some viscous hooks to the body at times.
          Prescott actually did better when he stopped looking for the one shot and tried to Box Mitchell instead
          of trying to take his head off with every swing, and he literally was swinging at times.

          Some of the rounds were very tight, Mitchell performed well but he could of done a lot
          more to establish domination in some of the rounds imo, however Prescott was missing so wildly at times
          that you tended to favour Mitchell on the fact he had Prescott fighting his fight, he was landing the clean
          shots and frustrating Prescott.

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          Stevie Bell vs John Simpson

          Round 1 Simpson (close)
          Simpson a bit more consistent, landed a left hook to the body and head
          at the end

          Round 2 Simpson
          Simpson landed some solid shots and seemed
          to hurt Bell a little imo

          Round 3 Simpson
          Simpson landed more solid shots and was he seemed
          to dip the legs of Bell again imo

          Round 4 Simpson
          Simpson went to the body well and is landing the clean, hard shots

          Round 5 Simpson
          All over Bell hitting him with ease.

          Round 6 Simpson
          Hammring Bell mercifully

          stopped on a cut



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          Arnaoutis vs Coleman

          Round 1 Arnaoutis (extremely close)
          Just felt he edged it with a few shots he scored earlier in the round

          Round 2 Coleman
          Arnaoutis not letting his hands go

          Round 3 Arnaoutis
          he edged it two clean shots he landed early and he controlled the pace
          of the fight, Coleman did even less than Arnaoutis

          Round 4 Coleman

          Round 5 Coleman

          Round 6 Arnaoutis
          Arnaoutis best round, he landed clean shots and let his hands go for
          once

          Round 7 Arnaoutis
          close round but Arnaoutis closed it out

          Round 8 Arnaoutis

          Round 9 Arnaoutis
          Arnaoutis more active

          Round 10 Coleman
          Coleman landed a few straight lefts

          Round 11 Arnaoutis

          Round 12 Arnaoutis

          Terrible fight, Arnaoutis looked like he was going to revert back to what he had done in the past, not
          letting his hands go. Coleman was looking for the the right hand the entire night and he was effective with
          it early, however Arnaoutis took it away from him by getting the jab going and letting his hands go a bit
          more.




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          Round 6 Robinson(kind)
          He was consistent throughout although you could also argue that Solimon
          took it because he was landing clean shots

          Round 7 Solimon
          Robinson forced the pace but got hit with clean counters by Solimon
          who is tired.

          Round 8 Solimon
          Again Robinson forced the pace but got hit with clean counters by Solimon


          Solimon used his superior foot and hand speed to get in and out and land counter right hooks/right hands, he
          got tired toward the end had to fiddle his way through. Robinson shooting his punches from too far away
          and leaving himself open to those counter rights, he took some big shots of Solimon at times.

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            • Originally posted by mhager91490 View Post
              Jean Pascal-Adrian Diaconu: This was my favorite fight of the year so far, I like to watch both of these guys fight, Diaconu the come forward banger and Pascal the flashy guy who likes to mix it up. Pascal worked his right hand brilliantly in that fight, he would throw a cross, uppercut and hook with it all in a row. That was just a great fight, lots of intensity.

              Carlos Monzon-Granien Tonna: Wasn't a great fight, Tonna was a real sloppy guy, real wide punches. The pattern of the fight would Monzon would fight in the middle jabbing Tonna, then Tonna would bull him into the ropes, Monzon would lean way back and block the punches with his arms and eventually tie him up. In the fifth round Monzon hurts Tonna with a bodyshot and as he turns away Monzon hits him behind the ear with a right but the ref counts him out anyway.
              Watched the 2nd pascal-Diaconou fight. Pascal has become one of my favorite current fighters to watch. he fought brilliantly, better than the first fight, and showed tremendous heart when he looked like he dislocated his shoulder towards the end of the 10th round. Would love to see him fight Dawson

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              • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez

                Round 1 Rosario
                Landed! more punches imo.

                Round 2 Rosario
                Ramirez was getting painted with 3 right hands mid round but
                Ramirez came back and really hurt Rosario, although Rosario did not go
                down and Ramirez did'nt really follow up either, its about one of the few
                good shots JLR landed in the round.


                Round 3 Rosario
                He painted JLR with hard right hands in this round, although JLR
                did start to score cleanly towards the end.

                Round 4 Ramirez
                Rosario landed the harder shots in this round but i thought
                Ramirez took it on workrate and consistency througout the
                round

                Round 5 Rosario
                Best round of the fight, and best round of the fight for Rosario, he
                hammered JLR with hard! shots in this round


                Round 6 Rosario
                He did nothing for the first 1st minute and half, then he came
                to life and started whacking JLR with hard shots to take the round
                on my card, only reason i could not score it for JLR is because even
                though he might have thrown more he was not landing with much.

                Round 7 Ramirez
                Best round of the fight for Ramirez, his most productive in being the
                aggressor and actually landing!! he has been aggressive thoughout.

                Round 8 Ramirez
                Consistent with his attack throughout and landed short
                jolting shots throughout.

                Round 9 Ramirez
                Same as the 8th really, consistent with his attack throughout, landed short
                jolting shots throughout. Rosario has gone to sleep and took his foot
                of the gas.

                Round 10 Ramirez
                He was all over!! Rosario in this round, loads of pressure and he
                scored throughout

                Round 11 Ramirez
                pressure and consistency throughout

                Round 12 Ramirez

                clear round for Ramirez, consistent scoring throughout.


                Rosario had this fight under control untill he stopped throwing in mid rounds, he clearly took
                his foot of the gas, not doubt because of fatigue. Ramirez has been putting lots of pressure on
                throughout but he was not landing his shots consistently for the first 5/6 rounds, however towards
                the second half of the fight his accuracy seemed to improve, although you might say that was to do with
                Rosario tiring. I thought Ramirez won it and on reflection i think he deserved to win it, he forced the fight
                from start to finish and the rounds that Rosario won were rounds which he was probably the less active
                fighter but he took some of those rounds on my card because despite being more inactive he was landing
                and cleaner shots, that said i could easily see someone swaying to Ramirez in some
                of those rounds. Ramirez dominated the late rounds he won with his consistency.
                Saw this fight last night. the only round I scored differently than you was the 11th, so i had it 114-114. Ramirez dominated the second half of the fight, but no way was he going to win a close decision in P.R. Rosario fought so many wars in the 80's: both Ramirez fights, the Howard Davis and hector Camacho fights as well. Ramirez may have fought every significant 135 pounder of his generation.

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                    • Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
                      Watched the 2nd pascal-Diaconou fight. Pascal has become one of my favorite current fighters to watch. he fought brilliantly, better than the first fight, and showed tremendous heart when he looked like he dislocated his shoulder towards the end of the 10th round. Would love to see him fight Dawson
                      Pascal never fails to deliver an entertaining performance, he is a reckless guy with loads of talent and potential and while he would probably be a better fighter if he didn't take as many chances but I wouldn't want to see that, I like to watch him just the way he is.

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