Top 10 Most OVERRATED Fighters

[Dynamite Kid]

when he did move up it's not like he took on the likes of Hearns, Barkley, Nunn, Benn, Eubanks, or even Olajide.

I dont understand where you are going with this bit.

Kalambay gave Barkley a Boxing lesson!! he was also a better fighter than Benn & Eubank. McCallum also beat Collins whom beat both Benn and Eubank, he also beat Watson whom beat Benn & gave Eubank life and death twice.

Kalambay was an elite fighter, Eubank, Benn & Olajide were not.

[TheGreatA]

Vaden and Pettway aren't elite fighters historically,and I don't want to imply that. But they were very good, elite for the mid-90s 154ers, and Norris dominated them. Again, I think fighters like them are more relevant to his resume than SRL, etc. The other guys like Castro and Daniels are just as good opposition as Mannion and McCroy, I think. I can't think of a quality fighter at 154 that passed through that Norris didn't fight, for better or for worse, between Jackson moving up and the arrival of David Reid and Fernando Vargas. McCallum hung around at 154 for less than 3 years, and when he did move up it's not like he took on the likes of Hearns, Barkley, Nunn, Benn, Eubanks, or even Olajide. If fighting the best of the best is what you're banking greatness on, then McCallum is not your man.
Don't get me wrong, head-to-head, McCallum beats Norris. Bringing up the fighters McCallum lost to was in no way a comparison or in context with Norris. I was referring to how he tends to be overrated as a ATG. I was referring to Kalambay and Toney (I think they split those fights), and you brought up Jones.
I find sitting champions to be very impressive, and it shouldn't deflate their legacy if they don't move up. Also, saying Norris is the best 154er isn't exactly a huge compliment. Kind of a weak division. Just a notch above declaring Holyfield to be the greatest cruiserweight of all time.

Indeed he didn't, he took on better fighters than that. Nunn is the only real name he didn't fight but he did fight Toney who beat Nunn. I'm afraid Hearns, Benn and Eubank wanted nothing to do with him. Barkley and Olajide would have been no contest.

If he split fights with Toney and Kalambay then he hardly lost to every elite fighter he ever faced, did he?

I don't think I can convince you about McCallum because you have a different idea of what a fighter should do in order to pursue greatness. I don't think sitting on your title and dominating a rather weak group of boxers is it. And it's not like Norris was as dominant as Hopkins was during his reign although he did fight better opponents, in my opinion.

[mrboxer]

1.) Joe Frazier - Entire legacy based off of one win over one past his prime fighter who lost to ring rust,and then two decisive losses to the very same man and two beat downs by the only puncher he ever faced and that's his legacy.Failed to fight the top heavyweights of his era,ducked virtually every puncher of his era and the two times that he did,he got put down eight times.Gets ranked in a position that he clearly isn't deserving of,

2.) Roberto Duran - Supposedly one of the most dominant champions of all time and yet failed to defend his title against the greatest contenders on a consistent basis,padded record consisting of no hopers and lost to bums like Kirkland Laing and Robbie Simms.There's an excuse for ever loss he ever suffered but the cold hard truth is that he just wasn't as good as his fanboys claimed.

3.) Aaron Pryor - Entire legacy is written by the newbs who watched HBO's legendary night series and bought into the ****** myths and lies such as Leonard and Hearns ducking this man.His resume is piss poor,with two wins over faded champions such as Cervantes and Arguello.He isn't p4p material and he isn't even the greatest in his own division,very overrated fighter.

4.) Gene Fullmer - Very similar situation with Frazier,entire legacy based off of two wins over Sugar Ray Robinson,who was a good five years past his prime the first time they fought.Two wins over a welterweight who was never an impressive middleweightt and he probably used his head more than he did his hands in those fights.Met Mr **** Tiger and boy did he get a wake up call.His style woudl fail miserably today,not so much because he was a one dimensional brawler,but because no legitimate official would tolerate his dirty tactics.

5.) James Toney - Very few fighters have as much of a padded record,benifited from so many gift decisions and recieved more chances than his fat slob,who at one time actually did have talent.His knockout victory over Michael Nunn is where his legacy started and where it ended.The greatest fighter he ever fought beat him on a landslide,it wasn't competitive,it wasn't close,Toney was brought in a glorified sparring partner and he got clowned.



Five will do for now.

frazier,duran,fullmer and toney are overrated,pryor i think did enough to be an atg in his division

[TheGreatA]

frazier is probably the most overrated boxer ever,duran is in a close second,fullmer is also overrated along with toney,but i think aaron pryor did enough to gain a atg in his division,after he beat arguello he came back and fought a tough 15 round war and got the decision against nicky furlano,after that win against furlano no one wanted to tangle with him,leonard,mancini,hearns,benitez,duran,hagler,al l declined

That's right, all of those boxers were overrated except Aaron Pryor who had wins over Alexis Arguello and Nicky Furlano as well as imaginary wins over every boxer who ever fought because they ducked him (although they actually didn't).

[Dynamite Kid]

Pryor did not look good against nicky furlano imo.

[Stoppage]

That's right, all of those boxers were overrated except Aaron Pryor who had wins over Alexis Arguello and Nicky Furlano as well as imaginary wins over every boxer who ever fought because they ducked him (although they actually didn't).

As much as I think how great Sugar Ray Leonard is, I think he ducked Pryor.

[Benncollinsaad]

Pryor did not look good against nicky furlano imo.

Again with this Furlano guy! He was a nobody. You guys have the tenacity to say Eddie Mustafa was nobody of importance, yet you pull out this Furlano guy!

[Princemanspopa]

As much as I think how great Sugar Ray Leonard is, I think he ducked Pryor.

Go ahead and explain why you think Sugar Ray Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor and do so without using HBO legendary nights as a source

[Stoppage]

Go ahead and explain why you think Sugar Ray Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor and do so without using HBO legendary nights as a source

That's the only available footage that I know of which can help show that Leonard ducked Pryor. I also believe that Leonard was interviewed once and said that Pryor was too much of a risk but I can't confirm this.

There was no reason why he shouldn't have fought Pryor. Pryor had a good name and was a respected champion in another weight class. He was even willing to come up to Leonard's division in order to face him.

Say what you want but I think Leonard ducked Pryor.

[IMDAZED]

That's the only available footage that I know of which can help show that Leonard ducked Pryor. I also believe that Leonard was interviewed once and said that Pryor was too much of a risk but I can't confirm this.

There was no reason why he shouldn't have fought Pryor. Pryor had a good name and was a respected champion in another weight class. He was even willing to come up to Leonard's division in order to face him.

Say what you want but I think Leonard ducked Pryor.

About as valid as the whole Mosley ducked Mayweather in 1999 debate.

Don't believe it for one second and firmly believe Ray woulda had his way with him.