Chavez vs Taylor I - Who won?

[Dynamite Kid]

Taylor didn't verbally respond so I don't argue too much about it. Of course if you want to argue about it, you can bring up the fact that Steele let Hearns go on against Barkley while being on shakier legs than Taylor had (although Hearns did verbally respond I believe).

Taylor's corner didn't do him any favors by telling him to be aggressive and fight it out in the 12th, neither did Duva by getting on the ring apron and apparently distracting Taylor.

And Taylor's team didn't do him any good a couple years later after Taylor's struggle in a title defense against Glenwood Brown, by matching him up with Terry Norris.

Win or lose, I doubt Taylor's career would be that much different anyway. He wouldn't have spent that much time at the top unless he was carefully matched. Weight problems at 140, too much talent at 147, and taking too much punishment in general.

Taylor's corner didn't do him any favors by telling him to be aggressive and fight it out in the 12th, neither did Duva by getting on the ring apron and apparently distracting Taylor.


Isn't stepping on to the ring apron a straight DQ anyway? if it is then Duva lost him the fight not Steele.

[Stoppage]

Win or lose, I doubt Taylor's career would be that much different anyway. He wouldn't have spent that much time at the top unless he was carefully matched. Weight problems at 140, too much talent at 147, and taking too much punishment in general.

That might be true but it would certainly add to his legacy to have been the first man to beat JCC.

[Bushidō]

Who deserved to win? Taylor.

[Princemanspopa]

There's no way Taylor should have lost that fight.Don King had alot to do with
''Steel'' stoping that fight.If anyone out there thinks that they should have stopped that fight,they did not see it live.Juanma had a chance last night to show his heart but Taylor was not allowed that chance cus of Don King.He won every round and for ''Steel'' to stopped that fight was wrong....

Ooh look at me everyone,I watched HBO's Legendary night series and now I am a real boxing fan.I haven't actually watched the fight itself as someone with as short an attention span such as my own could never actually appreciate a boxing match in it's entirety.

Richard Steele was in Don King's pocket because that is what Legendary nights suggested,so therfor it must be true.


Stick to MMA,son.

[StarshipTrooper]

Ooh look at me everyone,I watched HBO's Legendary night series and now I am a real boxing fan.I haven't actually watched the fight itself as someone with as short an attention span such as my own could never actually appreciate a boxing match in it's entirety.

Richard Steele was in Don King's pocket because that is what Legendary nights suggested,so therfor it must be true.


Stick to MMA,son.

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[RightCross94]

Ridiculous stoppage. Steel was disgraceful for stopping it. Meldrick was denied a victory he had earned.

[Thread Stealer]

That might be true but it would certainly add to his legacy to have been the first man to beat JCC.

Of course.

Another thing, when this subject comes up, people often bring up the rematch for some reason, as if it really proves anything. By that point, Duva had already publicly refused to work with Taylor, saying he wouldn't put Taylor in with a 4-rounder, because he was so worried about Taylor's health and his diminished skills. Chavez had declined some too. All that rematch proved was that Chavez had more left in 1994, and that one brutal round wouldn't take away his legs. That was one fight and 1990 was another fight.

If you bring up things like Steele letting Hearns go on against Barkley on spaghetti legs, or not telling Chavez to go back to the neutral corner when he was in the middle of the ring, I can see that argument However, I can't really put much blame on a ref when a battered, bloddied guy won't verbally respond to the ref's question. Again, I blame Duva for that, because I really believe that Taylor would've verbally responded to Steele if he weren't looking at Duva, and the fight would've ended shortly thereafter.

[Benncollinsaad]

Next thing you know somebody will post a thread about who really won the second fight.

[mrbigshot]

i think taylor won the majority of rounds i think he won at least 9 rounds!!!! where chave was landing the harder blows but taylor was hitting him 4 shots to 1 shot of chavez

taylor was hurt in rounds 11 and 12 BUT he got up on solid legs and the ref steele should of used common sense and let it go but one has to think that don king did have some form of blackmail with steele after reading the shady **** that king has done

i just feel sorry for taylor because he fought hard and aggressive and gave is boxing career away in 1 fight and he deserved the decision!!

steele should of been aware of the red light its very very very amatuer mistake by him

[JAB5239]

i think taylor won the majority of rounds i think he won at least 9 rounds!!!! where chave was landing the harder blows but taylor was hitting him 4 shots to 1 shot of chavez

taylor was hurt in rounds 11 and 12 BUT he got up on solid legs and the ref steele should of used common sense and let it go but one has to think that don king did have some form of blackmail with steele after reading the shady **** that king has done

i just feel sorry for taylor because he fought hard and aggressive and gave is boxing career away in 1 fight and he deserved the decision!!

steele should of been aware of the red light its very very very amatuer mistake by him

I agree with all you said except your last sentence. Bottom line is that it takes 36 minutes to earn a decision, not 35 minutes and 58 seconds. Taylor should have responded to Steele, yet didn't. If there were 2 minutes left no one would be complaining.

That said, I've always felt bad for Mel. That loss took the wind out of his sails.