Best Heavyweight Jabbers?

[BattlingNelson]

Joe Louis followed by Holmes, Ali and Liston.

Not particularly brilliant that Louis was omitted from the poll.

[MANGLER]

Holmes jab is legendary.

[sonnyboyx2]

You mean all three out-jabbed a PAST PRIME Holmes who was already visibly slipping.

Poet

Holmes got into this sport at a late age not turning pro until he was 24yrs old, he was 45-0 11yrs later when he fought Bonecrusher Smith, Holmes prevailed but was very very fortunate to do so, he was easily out-jabbed by Smith and would have most likely been KOd if Smith had not suffered an horendous cut which halted the fight, Holmes was 46-0 he next fought David Bey and Bey rattled and staggered Holmes repeatedly yet once more he prevailed to move to 47-0 he next fought Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp, Holmes was virtually unrecognizable, Williams who had a 85ins reach easily beat Holmes in the jab department, yet Holmes was gifted the decision and moved to 48-0 he chose Michael Spinks as his next opponent and was `Whipped` far and square, being easily out-jabbed, out-hustled and out-fought by the lighter man, their rematch although closer was much of the same stuff... a bitter Holmes took 18 months out and returned to be brutally anihilated by Mike Tyson, Holmes then went 21-1 against a bunch of tomato cans, Holmes jab was good but against Class A fighters it was only mediocre, he failed to out-jab Witherspoon early in his career.. Shavers, Cooney, Snipes, Leon Spinks, Zanon, Leroy Jones, Marvis Frazier, Ocassio, Evangelista, Rodriguez, LeDoux, Frank & Tex Cobb had not a jab to offer to defend themselves...Holmes jab was never ever in the same league as Muhammad Ali`s

[Dynamite Kid]

Holmes got into this sport at a late age not turning pro until he was 24yrs old, he was 45-0 11yrs later when he fought Bonecrusher Smith, Holmes prevailed but was very very fortunate to do so, he was easily out-jabbed by Smith and would have most likely been KOd if Smith had not suffered an horendous cut which halted the fight, Holmes was 46-0 he next fought David Bey and Bey rattled and staggered Holmes repeatedly yet once more he prevailed to move to 47-0 he next fought Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp, Holmes was virtually unrecognizable, Williams who had a 85ins reach easily beat Holmes in the jab department, yet Holmes was gifted the decision and moved to 48-0 he chose Michael Spinks as his next opponent and was `Whipped` far and square, being easily out-jabbed, out-hustled and out-fought by the lighter man, their rematch although closer was much of the same stuff... a bitter Holmes took 18 months out and returned to be brutally anihilated by Mike Tyson, Holmes then went 21-1 against a bunch of tomato cans, Holmes jab was good but against Class A fighters it was only mediocre, he failed to out-jab Witherspoon early in his career.. Shavers, Cooney, Snipes, Leon Spinks, Zanon, Leroy Jones, Marvis Frazier, Ocassio, Evangelista, Rodriguez, LeDoux, Frank & Tex Cobb had not a jab to offer to defend themselves...Holmes jab was never ever in the same league as Muhammad Ali`s

Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp


Why do you always!! have to exaggerate sonnyboyx2 ?

It was a Boxing match, infact there were times where Williams outjabbed Holmes but he did not beat Holmes to a pulp in any way shape or form and it was aslo a close fight where Holmes dug really deep towards the end and showed his Championship heart one again.

Holmes won the rematch with Spinks imo.

[sonnyboyx2]

Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp


Why do you always!! have to exaggerate sonnyboyx2 ?

It was a Boxing match, infact there were times where Williams outjabbed Holmes but he did not beat Holmes to a pulp in any way shape or form and it was aslo a close fight where Holmes dug really deep towards the end and showed his Championship heart one again.

Holmes won the rematch with Spinks imo.

no exaggeration here Kid... if i remember correctly Holmes left eye was completely closed by Williams jab, his face was swollen and the HBO commentary team had Williams well ahead as i myself did... i am not knocking Larry Holmes for a single minute, he was a great champion and one of my favourite fighters, i post my comments as i myself see the fights as you and others also do, its not exaggerating, its telling it like i see it... go back and view the fight and come back and then tell me i am wrong or exaggerating

Holmes v Spinks (2) IMO Spinks won the fight

[sonnyboyx2]

Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp


Why do you always!! have to exaggerate sonnyboyx2 ?

It was a Boxing match, infact there were times where Williams outjabbed Holmes but he did not beat Holmes to a pulp in any way shape or form and it was aslo a close fight where Holmes dug really deep towards the end and showed his Championship heart one again.

Holmes won the rematch with Spinks imo.

please dont tell me Holmes was not fortunate against Bonecrusher Smith or that he out-jabbed Smith

[StarshipTrooper]

Holmes got into this sport at a late age not turning pro until he was 24yrs old, he was 45-0 11yrs later when he fought Bonecrusher Smith, Holmes prevailed but was very very fortunate to do so, he was easily out-jabbed by Smith and would have most likely been KOd if Smith had not suffered an horendous cut which halted the fight, Holmes was 46-0 he next fought David Bey and Bey rattled and staggered Holmes repeatedly yet once more he prevailed to move to 47-0 he next fought Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp, Holmes was virtually unrecognizable, Williams who had a 85ins reach easily beat Holmes in the jab department, yet Holmes was gifted the decision and moved to 48-0 he chose Michael Spinks as his next opponent and was `Whipped` far and square, being easily out-jabbed, out-hustled and out-fought by the lighter man, their rematch although closer was much of the same stuff... a bitter Holmes took 18 months out and returned to be brutally anihilated by Mike Tyson, Holmes then went 21-1 against a bunch of tomato cans, Holmes jab was good but against Class A fighters it was only mediocre, he failed to out-jab Witherspoon early in his career.. Shavers, Cooney, Snipes, Leon Spinks, Zanon, Leroy Jones, Marvis Frazier, Ocassio, Evangelista, Rodriguez, LeDoux, Frank & Tex Cobb had not a jab to offer to defend themselves...Holmes jab was never ever in the same league as Muhammad Ali`s

I am very familiar with Holmes' career.....probably more so than you are. What you failed to do in your little thumbnail biography of Larry was address the salient point that he was past-prime when he fought the fighters you're using as examples. The point is, Holmes was visibly on the slide from 1983 onward and people where commenting on it AT THE TIME. I know: I remember those days very well. People were, in fact, using the Bey fight as an example of Holmes being washed up. Using example from a time when he was clearly past it is being intellectually dishonest.

Poet

[Dynamite Kid]

no exaggeration here Kid... if i remember correctly Holmes left eye was completely closed by Williams jab, his face was swollen and the HBO commentary team had Williams well ahead as i myself did... i am not knocking Larry Holmes for a single minute, he was a great champion and one of my favourite fighters, i post my comments as i myself see the fights as you and others also do, its not exaggerating, its telling it like i see it... go back and view the fight and come back and then tell me i am wrong or exaggerating

Holmes v Spinks (2) IMO Spinks won the fight

Ive already seen it and Williams beating Holmes to a pulp did not happen, it was a Boxing match. Beating someone to a pulp is how i would describe Chavez's win over Rosario. The fact that Carl Williams was a long range Boxer should tell you all you need to know about what strategy he used to fight Holmes and that he was not the type to try and " beat someone to a pulp" but rather jab and outbox them.

[JAB5239]

Carl Williams and the fight can only be described as `ROBBERY` because Williams beat Holmes to a pulp


Why do you always!! have to exaggerate sonnyboyx2 ?

It was a Boxing match, infact there were times where Williams outjabbed Holmes but he did not beat Holmes to a pulp in any way shape or form and it was aslo a close fight where Holmes dug really deep towards the end and showed his Championship heart one again.

Holmes won the rematch with Spinks imo.

I agree with all of this. I've watched the Williams fight many times and it was close. Had Carl won the 12th round he could have been given the decision, but as you said already, Larry was the one to dig down and rightfully earn the decision. I will say Williams deserved a rematch though as he did fight a great fight.

I also believe Holmes won the second Spinks fights.

[RAESAAD]

I think if you have to pick just 1 it would be Holmes.....But all of the guys mentioned have great jabs.