Billy Papke - George Bernard 1912 France

[Willie Pep 229]

Papke stopped Bernard in six rounds (RTD).

The New York Times (NYT December 5th -1912) states that Bernard forced the fight for the first five rounds (or that Papke let him.)

Papke opened up in the sixth round and Bernard went down twice. Wobbled back to his corner.

Official result: Bernard failed to answer the bell for the seventh round.

So says The New York Times.

Another report claims Bernard fell asleep on his stool at the end of the sixth round, and his seconds were unable to shake him awake enough to please the refree.

The suggestion is not that he was groggy, but instead, that he was actually sleeping.

Bernard claimed he was drugged.

Anyone else ever hear of this fight?

[QueensburyRules]

Papke stopped Bernard in six rounds (RTD).

The New York Times (NYT December 5th -1912) states that Bernard forced the fight for the first five rounds (or that Papke let him.)

Papke opened up in the sixth round and Bernard went down twice. Wobbled back to his corner.

Official result: Bernard failed to answer the bell for the seventh round.

So says The New York Times.

Another report claims Bernard fell asleep on his stool at the end of the sixth round, and his seconds were unable to shake him awake enough to please the refree.

The suggestion is not that he was groggy, but instead, that he was actually sleeping.

Bernard claimed he was drugged.

Anyone else ever hear of this fight?

- - Boxrec have a record? If so they often have a wiki link of fight descriptions.

[Ivich]

- - Boxrec have a record? If so they often have a wiki link of fight descriptions.

Nothing of any use. Billy Papke beat Georges Bernard by RTD in round 6 of 20


Papke defends his claim as World Middleweight champion. Bernard did not answer the bell for round seven.

The Tacoma Times reported that Papke was also awarded the middleweight championship of France.

• Date: 1912-12-04
• Location: Cirque de Paris, Paris, Paris, France

[kara]

Papke stopped Bernard in six rounds (RTD).

The New York Times (NYT December 5th -1912) states that Bernard forced the fight for the first five rounds (or that Papke let him.)

Papke opened up in the sixth round and Bernard went down twice. Wobbled back to his corner.

Official result: Bernard failed to answer the bell for the seventh round.

So says The New York Times.

Another report claims Bernard fell asleep on his stool at the end of the sixth round, and his seconds were unable to shake him awake enough to please the refree.

The suggestion is not that he was groggy, but instead, that he was actually sleeping.

Bernard claimed he was drugged.

Anyone else ever hear of this fight?

Anyone find the Times article?

[Dr. Z]

Papke stopped Bernard in six rounds (RTD).

The New York Times (NYT December 5th -1912) states that Bernard forced the fight for the first five rounds (or that Papke let him.)

Papke opened up in the sixth round and Bernard went down twice. Wobbled back to his corner.

Official result: Bernard failed to answer the bell for the seventh round.

So says The New York Times.

Another report claims Bernard fell asleep on his stool at the end of the sixth round, and his seconds were unable to shake him awake enough to please the refree.

The suggestion is not that he was groggy, but instead, that he was actually sleeping.

Bernard claimed he was drugged.

Anyone else ever hear of this fight?

https://www.nytimes.com/1912/12/05/a...nth-round.html

https://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=poss19121205-01.1.7&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN----------

[Dr. Z]

Nothing of any use. Billy Papke beat Georges Bernard by RTD in round 6 of 20


Papke defends his claim as World Middleweight champion. Bernard did not answer the bell for round seven.

The Tacoma Times reported that Papke was also awarded the middleweight championship of France.

• Date: 1912-12-04
• Location: Cirque de Paris, Paris, Paris, France

Oh Ivich, this might interest you .



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Billy Wells Vs Bandsman Blake
Bob Fitzsimmons Vs Gus Ruhlin
Bob Fitzsimmons Vs Jack O'Brien
Danny Frush Vs Johnny Kilbane
Eddie McGoorty Vs Dave Smith
Fernand Quendreux Vs Astier
Frank Klaus Vs Marcel Moreau
Frank Moran Vs Billy Wells
Frankie Genaro Vs Bushy Graham
Fred Fulton Vs Carl Morris
Fred Fulton Vs Charlie Weinert
Freddie Welsh Vs Jack Daniels
Freddie Welsh Vs Willie Ritchie
Georges Carpentier Vs Billy Wells
Georges Carpentier Vs George Gunther
Georges Carpentier Vs Gunboat Smith
Georges Carpentier Vs Jim Sullivan
Georges Carpentier Vs Joe Jeanette
Gunboat Smith Vs Arthur Pelkey
Gunner Moir Vs Tiger Smith Harry Greb Vs Mickey Walker Harry Greb Vs Ted Moore Harry Greb Vs Tommy Gibbons 4 (Jack Dempsey called Greb's performance the most impressive he's ever seen) Harry Wills Vs Jack Sharkey
Henry Armstrong Vs. Lew Jenkins
Hughie Mehegen Vs Matt Wells
Jack Dempsey Vs Fred Fulton
Jack Dempsey Vs Carl Morris Jack Dempsey Vs Harry Greb (sparring) Jack Dempsey Vs Tommy Loughran (sparring) Jack Johnson exhibition while in prison
Jack Johnson Vs Bob Roper
Jack Sharkey Vs. Jimmy Maloney 2
Jim Coffey Vs Jim Flynn
Jim Corbett Vs Jim Jeffries
Jim Corbett Vs Kid McCoy (not sure if this is the staged fight they did before a back drop or the real one)
Jim Jeffries Vs Bob Fitzsimmons (The lighting was too bad to make the film commercially successful)
Jimmy Britt Vs Johnny Summers
Jimmy Slattery Vs Jack Lynch
Joe Bonds Vs **** O'Brien
Joe Louis Vs Lou Nova
Johnny Kilbane Vs George Chaney
Johnny Risko Vs Victorio Campollo
Kid McCoy Vs Peter Maher
Luis Firpo Vs Sailor Maxted
Luis Firpo Vs Jack McAuliffe
Marcel Cerdan Vs. Holman Williams
Mickey Walker Vs Dave Shade
Mike Gibbons Vs Soldier Bartfield
Mike Gibbons Vs Young Ahearn
Packey McFarland Vs Matt Wells
Paul Berlenbach Vs Mike McTigue
Paul Berlenbach Vs Young Stribling
Pedlar Palmer Vs **** Burge
Pete Latzo Vs Joe Dundee
Ray Bronson Vs Sid Sullivan
Rocky Kansas Vs Jimmy Goodrich
Saint Didier Vs Joe Gans (not that Joe Gans)
Ruby Goldstein Vs Tony Vaccarelli
Sam Langford Vs Iron Hague
Sam Langford Vs Jack Lester
Sam Langford Vs Sam McVea Paris 1911
Sam Langford Vs Sam McVea Sydney 1912
Stanislaus Loayza Vs Phil McGraw
Ted Kid Lewis Vs Marcel Thomas
Terry McGovern Vs George Dixon
Tiger Flowers Vs Ray Neuman
Tom Heeney Vs Otto Von Porat
Tom Sharkey Vs Kid McCoy
Willie Lewis Vs Jack Costello
Young Griffo VS Battling Charles Barnett
Young Kloby Vs Eddie Shevlin 1 and 2

Source: Steve Compton, boxing historian, fight film collector and author.



>>> Some of these films have been seen in 2023 - Dr Z.

[QueensburyRules]

Nothing of any use. Billy Papke beat Georges Bernard by RTD in round 6 of 20


Papke defends his claim as World Middleweight champion. Bernard did not answer the bell for round seven.

The Tacoma Times reported that Papke was also awarded the middleweight championship of France.

• Date: 1912-12-04
• Location: Cirque de Paris, Paris, Paris, France

- - Oui, oui,France!

[markusmod]

Oh Ivich, this might interest you .



Here are fights that were confirmed to have been filmed, but are just lost now:

Battling Nelson Vs Terry McGovern
Benny Bass Vs Harry Blitman
Benny Bass Vs Red Chapman
Billy Conn Vs. Tony Zale
Billy Papke Vs Georges Bernard
Billy Wells Vs Bandsman Blake
Bob Fitzsimmons Vs Gus Ruhlin
Bob Fitzsimmons Vs Jack O'Brien
Danny Frush Vs Johnny Kilbane
Eddie McGoorty Vs Dave Smith
Fernand Quendreux Vs Astier
Frank Klaus Vs Marcel Moreau
Frank Moran Vs Billy Wells
Frankie Genaro Vs Bushy Graham
Fred Fulton Vs Carl Morris
Fred Fulton Vs Charlie Weinert
Freddie Welsh Vs Jack Daniels
Freddie Welsh Vs Willie Ritchie
Georges Carpentier Vs Billy Wells
Georges Carpentier Vs George Gunther
Georges Carpentier Vs Gunboat Smith
Georges Carpentier Vs Jim Sullivan
Georges Carpentier Vs Joe Jeanette
Gunboat Smith Vs Arthur Pelkey
Gunner Moir Vs Tiger Smith Harry Greb Vs Mickey Walker Harry Greb Vs Ted Moore Harry Greb Vs Tommy Gibbons 4 (Jack Dempsey called Greb's performance the most impressive he's ever seen) Harry Wills Vs Jack Sharkey
Henry Armstrong Vs. Lew Jenkins
Hughie Mehegen Vs Matt Wells
Jack Dempsey Vs Fred Fulton
Jack Dempsey Vs Carl Morris Jack Dempsey Vs Harry Greb (sparring) Jack Dempsey Vs Tommy Loughran (sparring) Jack Johnson exhibition while in prison
Jack Johnson Vs Bob Roper
Jack Sharkey Vs. Jimmy Maloney 2
Jim Coffey Vs Jim Flynn
Jim Corbett Vs Jim Jeffries
Jim Corbett Vs Kid McCoy (not sure if this is the staged fight they did before a back drop or the real one)
Jim Jeffries Vs Bob Fitzsimmons (The lighting was too bad to make the film commercially successful)
Jimmy Britt Vs Johnny Summers
Jimmy Slattery Vs Jack Lynch
Joe Bonds Vs **** O'Brien
Joe Louis Vs Lou Nova
Johnny Kilbane Vs George Chaney
Johnny Risko Vs Victorio Campollo
Kid McCoy Vs Peter Maher
Luis Firpo Vs Sailor Maxted
Luis Firpo Vs Jack McAuliffe
Marcel Cerdan Vs. Holman Williams
Mickey Walker Vs Dave Shade
Mike Gibbons Vs Soldier Bartfield
Mike Gibbons Vs Young Ahearn
Packey McFarland Vs Matt Wells
Paul Berlenbach Vs Mike McTigue
Paul Berlenbach Vs Young Stribling
Pedlar Palmer Vs **** Burge
Pete Latzo Vs Joe Dundee
Ray Bronson Vs Sid Sullivan
Rocky Kansas Vs Jimmy Goodrich
Saint Didier Vs Joe Gans (not that Joe Gans)
Ruby Goldstein Vs Tony Vaccarelli
Sam Langford Vs Iron Hague
Sam Langford Vs Jack Lester
Sam Langford Vs Sam McVea Paris 1911
Sam Langford Vs Sam McVea Sydney 1912
Stanislaus Loayza Vs Phil McGraw
Ted Kid Lewis Vs Marcel Thomas
Terry McGovern Vs George Dixon
Tiger Flowers Vs Ray Neuman
Tom Heeney Vs Otto Von Porat
Tom Sharkey Vs Kid McCoy
Willie Lewis Vs Jack Costello
Young Griffo VS Battling Charles Barnett
Young Kloby Vs Eddie Shevlin 1 and 2

Source: Steve Compton, boxing historian, fight film collector and author.



>>> Some of these films have been seen in 2023 - Dr Z.

what is the story on what happened to them?

[Dr. Z]

what is the story on what happened to them?

A few have been confirmed and even appear on you tube.

[markusmod]

A few have been confirmed and even appear on you tube.

Time to start watching this weekend