Overated by fans/media more so that overtated fighters

[Obama]

Always respect your opinions ***** and agreed with your quote on Castro


So my question would be name me 10/20 fighters that could beat a world class fighter who was still fairly prime at the age of 46. Factor in they were 20odd years past their prime and 5 weight divisions above their best weight?
Langford could do it after that its a struggle?

Well that's a good point. But meh, neither fighter looked impressive in those fights. Langford KOing HOFer Tiger Flowers whilst blind in both eyes is just a tad bit completely (pun intended) out of the league of anything an old Duran accomplished.

Anyways, Duran's losses in the 80s severely outweigh the relevance of his wins in the 90s. He simply wasn't a great fighter anymore post Leonard I.

Think of Duran's win over Castro like Holyfield's win (yes, I know what I just typed) over Valuev.

[GJC]

Well that's a good point. But meh, neither fighter looked impressive in those fights. Langford KOing HOFer Tiger Flowers whilst blind in both eyes is just a tad bit completely (pun intended) out of the league of anything an old Duran accomplished.

Anyways, Duran's losses in the 80s severely outweigh the relevance of his wins in the 90s. He simply wasn't a great fighter anymore post Leonard I.

Think of Duran's win over Castro like Holyfield's win (yes, I know what I just typed) over Valuev.

No Langford is a given and I agree the Castro/Duran fights were never going to be FOTY. But like I said Langford and ? could do it?
Duran 80's and beyond only tantalised us with how good he could be when in condition. Basically he should have looked after himself better and realised a man of 30 can't abuse his body as much as a man of 20 can.
If he would have done that then I doubt anyone could keep him out of the top 4 let alone top 20.

[1SILVA]

Overated by fans more so that overtated fighters? come on!! we all have 1 or 2 so lets hear them, here is your chance to let it all out


You can pick more than two if you like. I know SonnyBox will pick Lennox by default but he can still post that if he likes, its all good.

An exaggerated opinion on a particular fighter, its not to say they are not great, just that the hype outweighs the credentials/ability of the fighter from YOUR! perspective.

My picks.......

Marvin Hagler, Duran & Kostya Tszyu.

Dont get me wrong all were tremendous fighters whom i respect but i just dont believe the high regard Tszyu is held in stacks up to the skills and resume he has. His skills were much better in the amateurs from the footage ive seen, but as a Pro he lacked defence and he could not fight inside, his resume is not what id expect for the amount of hype that surrounds his name.

Hagler because when i watch Hagler what i see is a methodical fighter with good countering skills albeit not spectacular, and a guy who had pretty average hand & foot speed, its no surprise to me that Duran, Leonard were able to give him so much trouble with their Boxing skills, because like i said whist Hagler was a competent Boxer, he was not an exceptional one, what Hagler did have going for him was ..........he was a punishing puncher, had good stamina, iron jaw, heart, good countering skills albeit not spectacular as i mentioned.


Duran just purely on the fact some people rank him waay to high on their ATG lists. He was a great LW because of his longevity more so than because of who he beat, but was he any better than Whitaker at Lightweight? he had a great reign but Whitaker had wins over Azumah Nelson, Haugen, Paez, Pendleton,JLR, Mayweather. The win over Nelson is better than any of Duran's imo. De Jesus is the best name on Duran's resume at LW. I also think his stint at MW/LMW gets overrated to, if you stay around long enough and keep taking losses eventually you can beat a crude Iran Barkley and give your resume a nice shine. He was outboxed by Laing, Benitez, he was knocked out against Hearns, lost two other fights with Leonard, and whilst he did well against Hagler he still lost. He is a great fighter but people put him up there way too far. I think Duran came in out of shape a lot of the time but he does not get a free pass if that is why he lost on occasion. Another thing, Duran's defence gets over hyped too much imo, whilst he had a good defence it was not as air tight as people would have you believe, he got nailed quite a few times with right hands or left hooks. Duran is an ATG but he is not a (4) ATG like some laughable have him as.


Lets hear yours..........

The fighter most overrated by both the fans and media was gerry Cooney back in 1982. The nerve of them having Larry Holmes introduced before him in their 1982 title fight. Holmes made Cooney look like the amateur he was. Cooney was the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport. He cried like a *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Obama]

No Langford is a given and I agree the Castro/Duran fights were never going to be FOTY. But like I said Langford and ? could do it?
Duran 80's and beyond only tantalised us with how good he could be when in condition. Basically he should have looked after himself better and realised a man of 30 can't abuse his body as much as a man of 20 can.
If he would have done that then I doubt anyone could keep him out of the top 4 let alone top 20.

Well, Archie Moore was still LHW Champ in his mid 40s, and George Foreman won the HW title in his mid 40s.

I rate both more impressively than beating Castro.

[GJC]

Well, Archie Moore was still LHW Champ in his mid 40s, and George Foreman won the HW title in his mid 40s.

I rate both more impressively than beating Castro.

Don't get me wrong I'm not using the Castro win in as the be all and end all of Duran's career.
Re Moore and Foreman I'm not so sure i'd use them in this context.
Moore matured like a fine wine and learnt from every defeat also he was in better physical nick than a Duran who eat his way to the weight.
Think Heavys is more forgiving to aging fighters as the speed element whilst important is as vital. Also Foreman always will have a punchers chance, it amazes me that some rate the comeback Foreman above the 70's Foreman.