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  • #11
    Wasn't Primo himself an ex strongman going up against boxers? All his fights might be thought of as outliers.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
      Wasn't Primo himself an ex strongman going up against boxers? All his fights might be thought of as outliers.
      I've seen others have the same take, more or less.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
        During his "exile" in Europe while champion, Jack Johnson had a fairly extensive exhibition wresting career. This was separate from his worked matches in the 1920s and 30s, in the US and Australia, that took place long after his tenure as champion.
        While living in Europe, Jack found a very good living winning and sometimes losing against some of the best grapplers on the continent, and in the long tradition of Vero Small (Samuel Hadley), Captain James Daly, Professor William Miller, Patty Ryan, Gus Lambert and many others before him, Johnson was a skilled catch wrestler.

        A partial listing of Johnson's wrestling matches while in Europe would include:

        1913
        Oct. Willi Urbach, Paris, France......W
        Nov. Jimmy Easson, Paris, France.....L
        Nov. Andre Sproul, Paris, France.....NC W KO Foul
        Nov. Joe Rogers, Paris, France.....W
        Dec. Aimable de la Calmette, Paris, France.....W

        1914
        Jan. Fred Marcussen, Berlin, Germany.....L
        Feb. Martin Zikoff, Hamburg, Germany.....W
        Mar. Charles Hansen, Gothenburg, Swd.....W
        Mar. Rudolf Grüneisen, Gothenburg, Swd.....W
        Mar. Iivari Tuomiso, Gothenburg, Swd.....D
        Apr. Ernst Erlenkamp, Geneva, Swiz......W
        Apr. Saki Hevonpää, Helsinki, Finland.....D
        May. Oswald Buchheim, Vienna, Austria.....D
        Jun. Heinrich Lobmayer, Graz, Austria.....W
        Aug. Heinrich Weber, Budapest, Hungary.....W
        Aug. Paul Westergaard-Schmidt, Berlin, Ger.....D
        Sep. Buzovac Mourzouck, Minsk, Rus.....D
        Oct. Josef Smejkal, Pilsen, Czech Rep.....W
        Nov. Josef Smejkal. Pilsen, Czech Rep.....W

        1915
        Feb. Gustav Naber, Brussels, Belgium.....W

        1916
        May. Guiseppe Masetti, Rome, Italy.....W

        1918
        Jul. Juan Ochoa, Bilbao, Spain.....W​
        Makes sense, considering all the grappling that used to be allowed in the old days of boxing.

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