New ********* Rule From ABC on Scoring Knockdown Rounds

[kara]

The specific ********* is the following:

It is mandatory to score 10-8 on a round where a fighter is knocked down, unless there is an unquestionable outstanding domination from the boxer that was knocked down. Only then may the round be scored 10-9 for the fighter who knocked down his/her opponent.

[Willie Pep 229]

No rule needed. It's always been that way since the 10 point must system replaced the round count.

Just annother scantioning body or commission trying to make it self relevant.

Most recenty we saw it come into play with Kambosos-Lopez.

Kambosos got a 10-8 on only one score card the other two felt Lopez dominated the round and made the flash KD only a 10-9.

Personally I would call it a 10-10 round. Domination of entire round should not be negateded by a one punch flash KD, it is not a round won in my book.

But this rule is consistent with the powers to be who want to turn prize fighting into a sporting event filled with rules and dictated scoring.

[Marchegiano]

No rule needed. It's always been that way since the 10 point must system replaced the round count.

Just annother scantioning body or commission trying to make it self relevant.

Most recenty we saw it come into play with Kambosos-Lopez.

Kambosos got a 10-8 on only one score card the other two felt Lopez dominated the round and made the flash KD only a 10-9.

Personally I would call it a 10-10 a round. Domination of entire round should not be negateded by a one punch flash KD, it is not a round won in my book.

But this rule is consistent with the powers to be who want to turn prize fihhting into a sporting event filled with rules and dictated scoring.

Biggus ****us ... I just noticed.

[Slugfester]

I favor the 10-8 mandatory, because the other way flings the door wide open for skullduggery. With honest judges (say AI judges), it would be a different matter. But boxing officials have never been fully trusted, and sold out many times. I am not ready to give the judges more power.

[Willie Pep 229]

I favor the 10-8 mandatory, because the other way flings the door wide open for skullduggery. With honest judges (say AI judges), it would be a different matter. But boxing officials have never been fully trusted, and sold out many times. I am not ready to give the judges more power.

A friendly challenge.

Watch the 1st and 10th rounds of Kambosos vs. Lopez (just those two rounds) and see if you feel comfortable telling me you think those two rounds/KDs deserve the same score.

Does Tunney's flash KD of Dempsey in round eight deserve the same score of Dempsey's almost KO of Tunney in the seventh round?

I recognize your concern, but corruption is just that, corruption and needs to be dealt with as a crime.

To make the scoring of a KD a mandatory 10-8 round, is to insure only, that some bad decisions will be made legal.

Watch those two rounds, (K vs. L) you will clearly see that all KDs should not be scored the same. (IMHO, of course.)

Personally, I want to go the other way (if we must keep the ten point must system at all, I personally hate it) I would rather see an expansion of the scoring where flash KDs get you a 10-8, and devastating KDs get scored 10-7.

I'd like to see the scoring opened up.

Or better yet, dump it

But I don't want the judges hands tied anymore than they are now.

When you think through the '10 point must system,' --> 98% of the time it is really just a 'three point must.'

10-9
10-8
10-7 (almost never; all right once in a great while it happens)

Fight stopped!

[kara]

ESPN just mentioned the new rule ********* early today on the Anderson-Rudenko card

[QueensburyRules]

The specific ********* is the following:

It is mandatory to score 10-8 on a round where a fighter is knocked down, unless there is an unquestionable outstanding domination from the boxer that was knocked down. Only then may the round be scored 10-9 for the fighter who knocked down his/her opponent.

- - ABC has little if any regulatory authority.

Its up to Commishes and Title Orgs to adopt what they want, but in general ABC is careful to adopt rules that most in boxing would want.

[Slugfester]

A friendly challenge.

Watch the 1st and 10th rounds of Kambosos vs. Lopez (just those two rounds) and see if you feel comfortable telling me you think those two rounds/KDs deserve the same score.

Does Tunney's flash KD of Dempsey in round eight deserve the same score of Dempsey's almost KO of Tunney in the seventh round?

I recognize your concern, but corruption is just that, corruption and needs to be dealt with as a crime.

To make the scoring of a KD a mandatory 10-8 round, is to insure only, that some bad decisions will be made legal.

Watch those two rounds, (K vs. L) you will clearly see that all KDs should not be scored the same. (IMHO, of course.)

Personally, I want to go the other way (if we must keep the ten point must system at all, I personally hate it) I would rather see an expansion of the scoring where flash KDs get you a 10-8, and devastating KDs get scored 10-7.

I'd like to see the scoring opened up.

Or better yet, dump it

But I don't want the judges hands tied anymore than they are now.

When you think through the '10 point must system,' --> 98% of the time it is really just a 'three point must.'

10-9
10-8
10-7 (almost never; all right once in a great while it happens)

Fight stopped!

Apparently I realized something others haven't--a boxer is not supposed to go off his feet. When he does, the scorecards have to reflect that. Your other suggestion sounds better on paper, but actually is not, because it still leaves the door wide open for skullduggery. Who is going to decide whether a knockdown was devastating? The very same judges we would like to see relieved of some power, not granted more.

[Eff Pandas]

I favor the 10-8 mandatory, because the other way flings the door wide open for skullduggery. With honest judges (say AI judges), it would be a different matter. But boxing officials have never been fully trusted, and sold out many times. I am not ready to give the judges more power.

Agree lol. This might as well be called the dumb judge rule. The 10-8 in a KD rd is pretty much standard as is for even the most sketchy judges, but there are still judges dumb enough to wanna play games with it so we need this rule ig.

[Slugfester]

Agree lol. This might as well be called the dumb judge rule. The 10-8 in a KD rd is pretty much standard as is for even the most sketchy judges, but there are still judges dumb enough to wanna play games with it so we need this rule ig.

A judge already screwed Pacquiao out of a victory by not reflecting a simple, clear knockdown on his scorecard. If an extra point for a knockdown were mandatory that could not have happened. QED