Is Holyfield a more accomplished fighter than Tyson?

[masta]

He definitely is. He had three world titles in the cruiserweight division and then moved up to beat the man who beat Tyson. He also beat Tyson twice, himself. Also, he has better wins than Tyson.

[StarshipTrooper]

I can understand why people hate Floyd, because he can be arrogant, I understand why many Puerto Ricans and Mexicans dont like each others fighters, because of their pride in their respective heritages, but how could anyone have an agenda against Holyfield? The guy has done nothing but fight hard his whole career and loves the sport so mcuh he's refusing to retire.

LRR aka "The Village Idiot" has a bug up his ass about Evander Holyfield. And Larry Holmes. And Bernard Hopkins. And then there's his personal crusade against Muhammed Ali.....

Poet

[RightCross94]

LRR aka "The Village Idiot" has a bug up his ass about Evander Holyfield. And Larry Holmes. And Bernard Hopkins. And then there's his personal crusade against Muhammed Ali.....

Poet

It's bizzare really, Ali, Holmes, Hopkins and Evander are all highly accomplished, universally respected fighters. What is the point of having an agenda against them? He's just a very un-objective, irrational individual.

[Spray_resistant]

Ask yourself this. Since they are both old and their careers are over or pretty much over.....who's career would you preferred to have had and ended with? I know my answer.

[StarshipTrooper]

It's bizzare really, Ali, Holmes, Hopkins and Evander are all highly accomplished, universally respected fighters. What is the point of having an agenda against them? He's just a very un-objective, irrational individual.

I think the fact that they ARE highly accomplished and universally respected is the reason for his derision. I personally don't think he believes there's any such thing as objective reality (there ARE such people out there!).....either that or he's just senile.

Poet

[GJC]

** The Unholy juggernaut was blown to smithereens by Big George, a supposedly easy 1st defense to give George a late retirement payday.

Holy absorbed unholy punishment and was hanging by a thread the last few rounds.

Foreman put up a reasonable show but Holyfield won comfortably.

No actually your right Holyfield struggled like Ali did against Terrell and Middleberger the decision was as much a travesty as those were

[GJC]

either that or he's just senile.
Poet

Hey there's nothing wrong with being senile

[Bright-Eyes]

LRR aka "The Village Idiot" has a bug up his ass about Evander Holyfield. And Larry Holmes. And Bernard Hopkins. And then there's his personal crusade against Muhammed Ali.....

Poet

You forgot Ray Leonard,Jack Johnson and who can forget James Toney.He hasn't been around alot for the past two and a half months or so.

Foreman put up a reasonable show but Holyfield won comfortably.

No actually your right Holyfield struggled like Ali did against Terrell and Middleberger the decision was as much a travesty as those were

We simply missed such great struggles because we didn't have HD like LRR had at the time.

[BennyST]

One of a number of ****** FOTY calls by Ring to include:
NOT naming Pryor-AA I FOTY (preferring Chacon-Boza I believe)
Ali-Spinks II instead of Holmes-Norton
Gatti-Ward III over Jirov-Toney
and I dare anyone to watch McGuigan-Cruz and Holy-Qawi I back to back and say "Yeah, good call."

Yeah, they have had some pretty damn ****** ones above much greater fights, though I must admit that I don't agree with Pryor/Arguello being that much better than Chacon/Edwards, if at all in fact. That was one of the most amazing fights in the history of the sport. That was the real Rocky story. Life falling to pieces, wife just died, no one thought he could win this fight let along another title and he was getting hammered, nearly stopped, busted up then somehow, somewhere pulled some weird resevoir of will from nowhere came back and knocked him down and nearly out to pull of a razor thin decision..... Truly amazing.

Gatti/Ward wasn't anything like Jirov/Toney which is still one of the best fights I've ever seen.

McGuigan/Cruz though is simply a disgrace. Great fight and all but it absolutely doesn't even compare to Holyfield/Qawi. Not even in the same ballpark.