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  • Willie Pep 229
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    #21
    Originally posted by Cash in

    I remember when you told me this my cousin &
    brother Nash. It's definitely true. Nash sees things others don't, and we can only learn from the Great Nash. NWO - Nash World Order. Cash in
    Fifth race, Friday, 17th February, Aqueduct Race Track, Queens, NY.

    Give me the trifecta! Then I will believe every word of it.

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    • Cash in
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      #22
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      Fifth race, Friday, 17th February, Aqueduct Race Track, Queens, NY.

      Give me the trifecta! Then I will believe every word of it.
      My cousin & brother the Great Nash can not pick and choose what comes to him, but Nash saw Usyk out there on the frontline winning that war. Cash in

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        #23
        Originally posted by Cash in

        My cousin & brother the Great Nash can not pick and choose what comes to him, but Nash saw Usyk out there on the frontline winning that war. Cash in
        Yea it always seems that way with psychic claims. Never on command; not really much use, is he?

        Well if he gets another vision tell him to share it with us before it happens. I want to believe!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ivich

          Both, I would have thought that was obvious?
          Not overly obvious.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ivich

            Talk about missing the point entirely! Louis said the last fight he had in which he felt like his real self was against Tami Mauriello.

            You dont think Louis was in physical decline after WW2?
            Well he did and so did his Doctor!

            God ,you can be ****** at times!
            - - Don't take much above a slug to be smarter than you.

            Fighters move up the chain, plateau, and then move down generally with plenty of exceptions. Joe was 32 when he had his first post Army fight, and 34 against the 34yr old Wolcott for his last fight and retirement with a record of 4-0, 3KO. Joe's career is one of the steadier records in history proving even in decline he was better than the best in his day.

            So he wasn't peak, few fighters ever are in their careers for long, but no where near shot as he proved in his comeback.

            Ali was 28 when he started his comeback with an easier schedule and dolts then and now say he wasn't the same, nor was I at 28 compared to 21 nor was I at 38 and so forth. Joe did better because he was better and more stable than mecurical Ali as their career comparisons show.

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              #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Don't take much above a slug to be smarter than you.

              Fighters move up the chain, plateau, and then move down generally with plenty of exceptions. Joe was 32 when he had his first post Army fight, and 34 against the 34yr old Wolcott for his last fight and retirement with a record of 4-0, 3KO. Joe's career is one of the steadier records in history proving even in decline he was better than the best in his day.

              So he wasn't peak, few fighters ever are in their careers for long, but no where near shot as he proved in his comeback.

              Ali was 28 when he started his comeback with an easier schedule and dolts then and now say he wasn't the same, nor was I at 28 compared to 21 nor was I at 38 and so forth. Joe did better because he was better and more stable than mecurical Ali as their career comparisons show.
              not like you to be wise queeny. i may even grow to respect you


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                #27
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Don't take much above a slug to be smarter than you.

                Fighters move up the chain, plateau, and then move down generally with plenty of exceptions. Joe was 32 when he had his first post Army fight, and 34 against the 34yr old Wolcott for his last fight and retirement with a record of 4-0, 3KO. Joe's career is one of the steadier records in history proving even in decline he was better than the best in his day.

                So he wasn't peak, few fighters ever are in their careers for long, but no where near shot as he proved in his comeback.

                Ali was 28 when he started his comeback with an easier schedule and dolts then and now say he wasn't the same, nor was I at 28 compared to 21 nor was I at 38 and so forth. Joe did better because he was better and more stable than mecurical Ali as their career comparisons show.
                Quarry was ranked no 3 and Bonavena no 7

                Read the reports of Louis' comeback fights and ,if you have them watch, them as I first did in the 60's.
                You seem to be under the impression I am knocking Louis.far from it! I am explaining to you ,or trying to , that he was only about 60% of the fighter he had been.That's why he retired he knew he wasn't the Brown Bomber anymore
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                Little tip for you ,don't try and use words you cannot spell. MERCURIAL.Told you you can be ****** at times! lol

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by nathan sturley

                  not like you to be wise queeny. i may even grow to respect you

                  One swallow----

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ivich
                    Quarry was ranked no 3 and Bonavena no 7

                    Read the reports of Louis' comeback fights and ,if you have them watch, them as I first did in the 60's.
                    You seem to be under the impression I am knocking Louis.far from it! I am explaining to you ,or trying to , that he was only about 60% of the fighter he had been.That's why he retired he knew he wasn't the Brown Bomber anymore
                    .

                    Little tip for you ,don't try and use words you cannot spell. MERCURIAL.Told you you can be ****** at times! lol
                    - - I've seen most of Louis title fights and comeback fights and all of Ali's fights and have infinitely more experience with software word checks and don't get nearly so ennobled as your monogramed shorts.

                    Joe had the harder, longer career, period, as well as the better career in all phases. Ali career like a drunk careening from one massive controversy to the next. Joe had fewer controversies and settled them with KO rematches.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - I've seen most of Louis title fights and comeback fights and all of Ali's fights and have infinitely more experience with software word checks and don't get nearly so ennobled as your monogramed shorts.

                      Joe had the harder, longer career, period, as well as the better career in all phases. Ali career like a drunk careening from one massive controversy to the next. Joe had fewer controversies and settled them with KO rematches.
                      What exactly has Ali's career to do with Louis'? Why bring him into the thread?
                      Is it just that you have this need to see your name in posts? Such an overweening need that you perpetually post things that have no relevance to the subject being discussed.

                      Sad really.
                      Last edited by Ivich; 02-17-2023, 01:53 PM.

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