Pac Man Is He A Top Ten P4P?

[Ivich]

Manny Pacquiao,does he belong in the top ten P4P?

[QueensburyRules]

Manny Pacquiao,does he belong in the top ten P4P?

- - Manny in a perfect storm of time and place to fight, beat, and knock out more Ring P4Pers in history, and nobody even close such that 2nd place might as well be 5th or 6th place.

How the new moderns 50 years from now assuming boxing ain't been banned for being a scam see Manny in his time will be telling. #1 in his generation the best he can do for now.

[Nash out]

Touch and go for top 20 of the last 20 years. Nash out.

[The Old LefHook]

He didn't fight long in his natural division, which would have been lightweight.

[QueensburyRules]

He didn't fight long in his natural division, which would have been lightweight.

- - A single, epic lightweight fight in a 72 fight career that saw him jump 2 divisions to replace the crumbling, breaking into sissyboy tears l'l floydy for a $20 mil payday vs Oscar.

[Marchegiano]

No, just simple as, I can easily rattle off 10 names I would go to bat for before Manny and another 10 after that.

[Ivich]

No, just simple as, I can easily rattle off 10 names I would go to bat for before Manny and another 10 after that.

Would you care to do so?

[Amir Imam]

Nope

Margarito 150lbs + Vacant title.
De Lahoya 147LBS
Marquez 145LBs
Cotto 145 Lbs
Algieri 144LBs


Too many CWs

Fought 9 fighters coming off losses or KO compared to 2 for his arch nemesis

Last real KO Miguel Cotto 2009 at 145LB catchweight

Lost to Jeff Horn who didn’t even have 20 fights

Lost to too many average fighters

Fought same 4 fighters 12 times

One KO in the last 12yrs

Fought for 8 vacant titles

Excuses after every loss

[Ivich]

Nope

Margarito 150lbs + Vacant title.
De Lahoya 147LBS
Marquez 145LBs
Cotto 145 Lbs
Algieri 144LBs


Too many CWs

Fought 9 fighters coming off losses or KO compared to 2 for his arch nemesis

Last real KO Miguel Cotto 2009 at 145LB catchweight

Lost to Jeff Horn who didn’t even have 20 fights

Lost to too many average fighters

Fought same 4 fighters 12 times

One KO in the last 12yrs

Fought for 8 vacant titles

Excuses after every loss

Never seen stoppage wins held up as a criteria for P4P greatness before . Willie Pep and Miguel Canto didnt ko many opponents

Pacman lost two fights .as a flyweight one was to a nondescript fighter the other, against Sangsurat, was to a guy whose resume is 74-6-10 a guy who won the WBC super fly title.
Manny's other losses;
Morales 26 years old, avenged twice.
Bradley when he was 33 years old.
Marquez 33 years old
Mayweather 34 years old
Horn 38years old
Ugas 42 years old
Manny has wins over
Margarito
Mosley
Cotto
DeLaHoya
Vargas
Hatton
Alghieri
Marquez
Morales
Barrera
Julio
Solis
Diaz
Clottey
Bradley
Velasquez
He fought from flyweight to Super Welter and most of his name wins were over men nearer their natural weight class than he was .
Who are these average fighters?The two when he was a flyweight,at 17 and 20 years old?
Horn who beat him when he was38 and Ugas when he was 42.
Harry Greb whom pretty much everybody agrees is an all time great P4P ,scored 5 stoppages in his last 32 fights
Archie Moore another lock for P4P lost to
Rinaldi 21-5-0
Bacon14-3-2
Gibson41-4-1
Hall 41-10-2
Morrow12-2-1 Morrow ko'd him.
Were any of those more than ordinary fighters?

[QueensburyRules]

Fought same 4 fighters 12 times

- - What grade U in now?

4x 4th?