"Without Mike Tyson, Holyfield wouldn't be talked about" - Tyson Fury

[QueensburyRules]

Maybe not talked about or remember as much, but he would still be discussed - especially when it comes to cruiserweight

- -190 lbs.

[markusmod]

- -190 lbs.

Still one of the few to unify at cruiser and heavyweight (1 of 2 I think?).

[QueensburyRules]

Still one of the few to unify at cruiser and heavyweight (1 of 2 I think?).

- - Cruiser Division for small, failed heavy journeymen was, what, still in baby years old then?

Look at the more professional comp in later eras like Juan Carlos Gomez.

Vander inherited the unified division of Tyson, the first 4 belt holder if we include Ring Title. Buster through DKing able to skip the Tyson rematch for Vander while Mike was being groomed for 4 years in the Big House. Vander never unified though he spent the latter part of his life thinking that's what he was gonna do.

[club fighter]

When Evander is brought up they mention Holyfield-Bowe and missing ear parts more than when Mike got KTFO.

[elfag]

holyfield was still lineal heavyweight champ without tyson. he still had bowe, lewis, holyfield ect.

90s was stacked. no tyson fights he could have been fighting someone else in his place - golota, tua, morrison ect

[soul_survivor]

I agree with Dukson Fury, which is sad but I have to say it how it is but there's an important point here...casuals would not discuss Holyfield but hardcore fans, with or without Tyson would know how important Holyfield was and how good of a heavyweight he was.

[The Old LefHook]

That's the truth Uncle Ben, but these old-timers on here looking through nostalgic eyes don't want to hear the truth. Fury at his best vs Holyfield at his best would be a very one-sided win for Fury. I'd say there are at least 10 HW's today better Than prime Holyfield. Evan just benefitted from being in a weak era. I mean, people rave about Bowe, yet he is the same man who got battered In both fights vs some Polish journeyman who nobody remembers the name of, surviving two defeats due to the Polish journeyman ******ly getting himself DQ'd. Nash out.

We already knew you were a complete halfwit anyway.

[Nash out]

I pick Holyfield to beat Fury

What at? Nash out.

[Willie Pep 229]

We already knew you were a complete halfwit anyway.

I'm still waiting for his list of 'at least' ten fighters today who would KO Holyfield.

I resent you casually tossing around 'half-wit' insults; I worked hard to earn that moniker and you just gave it away to that halfwit.

For some reason I can't help envisioning this guy, on his bad days, talking to buildings.

Pep Out!

[The Old LefHook]

"Halfwit," expresses scorn so much better for me. My grandmother could really harp, and often referred to anyone as a halfwit.