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  • #91
    Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
    Ok, I know he had a fantastic defense. But you gotta have more than just that and a few tricks to be worthy of the title ATG. I just don't see how he qualifies for that title. He lost to DLH and Trinidad, two best WWs of the 90's. And I know he lost clearly, everybody that says anything else is talking BS!

    I think he is overated. He didn't beat that many great fighters. Who did he beat? Roger Mayweather, who imo was not a great fighter, just very good. And he floored Whitaker once in that fight and made it close. JC Chavez...I dunno, I haven't seen that fight really but I know its considered a controversial draw. Judging by the comments made on the DLH fight I am sceptical about the controversy.
    Yeah but he was slipping a bit by then and he had a drug problem to boot. I gots to represent him though because he grew up in Newport News, VA only 40 minutes from where I live in Richmond. He had a very good offense as well as perhaps one of the best evasive defenses of all time (at least top 5)

    His fights were always entertaining, I'd put him top 25 all time and top 5 of the past 25 years.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by mathed View Post
      Yeah but he was slipping a bit by then and he had a drug problem to boot. I gots to represent him though because he grew up in Newport News, VA only 40 minutes from where I live in Richmond. He had a very good offense as well as perhaps one of the best evasive defenses of all time (at least top 5)

      His fights were always entertaining, I'd put him top 25 all time and top 5 of the past 25 years.
      I wish all posts here could be as civil and polite as yours.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
        Fak you. You can go on and on about all the names he beat, but they don't mean **** to me. Who were they? If he had beat Hearns or Benitez or Palomino or Cuevas, then it would mean something to me. Who are all these Ramirezes? Road sweepers, as Benn said?

        Maybe you all should get together and clean Whitaker's house and serve him 24 hours a day, coz I've never seen such idolatry before. You could score him dope as well, so he doesn't have to worry about it.

        So because you don't know or aren't familiar with the fighters Pea beat he's no good?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by catalinul View Post
          Wow,where do you get this?

          Whitaker is a top 15-20 ATG IMO.

          He was p4p no 1 for a long time,first undisputed champ at lightweight since Duran,won titles at 140,147 and 154.
          He beat extremely good fighters in Chavez,Nelson and had plenty of other very good wins,Ramirez(where he was robbed in one fight),Haugen,McGirt(twice),Vasquez,Rivera(twice), Paez,ec.

          You gotta take into account most his wins were dominant shoutout wins against top competition while he was going up in weight and had little KO power,that combined with his style of not running made him awesome.
          Why even bring up de la Hoya and Trinidad?He was past his prime with Oscar and still arguably beat him and he was really done by Triinidad and still went the distance.

          I was going to say pretty much the exact same thing. I think he did beat De La Hoya real close. I think the reason some people dont give him enough credit is because he didn't have a big punch, but he didn't need to be a knockout puncher to still dominate in his fights. Trinidad is the only fight I think he really lost, and he still went the distance with Trinidad when he was for sure past his prime.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
            I wish all posts here could be as civil and polite as yours.
            Thanks. Check out the ko in my signature, I made that GIF today after posting here in this thread.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
              And Ramirez beat Whitaker. I wasn't referring to him specifically, but all these guys generally. Many of them have inflated records and are most likely somewhat overated. But whatever you say.
              Dumb ass, watch it. You've become no different then those Pac nuthuggers who speak on past greats, having not watched them.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by El Dominicano. View Post
                Dumb ass, watch it. You've become no different then those Pac nuthuggers who speak on past greats, having not watched them.
                I don't like watching fighters I hate. But I've seen some of it and Ramirez def had an edge. It does not appear to have been a shutout for Whitaker at all. I suggest you take off the nuthugger glasses and try to look at it objectively.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  If you don't like Pernell Whitalker, that's one thing but you should still recognize his greatness. I understand not liking certain boxers.

                  I can't stand Sugar Ray Leonard, but I still recognize his place in boxing history. Pernell Whitaker is an ATG.
                  Your not alone, I have a serious dislike for SRL but not once have I made a thread questioning his greatness, want to know why? Because I've seen enough of him to know his greatness shouldn't be questioned, too bad T.S didn't do the same. He called overratd what he knew nothing of.
                  Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 09-12-2009, 04:06 PM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano. View Post
                    Your not a alone, I have a serious dislike for SRL but not once have I made a thread questioning his greatness, want to know why? Because I've seen enough of him to know his greatness shouldn't be questioned, too bad T.S didn't do the same. He called overratd what he knew nothing of.
                    Finally we find something common. I don't like SRL either. But I'll easier admit he was a great fighter.

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                    • Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
                      I don't like watching fighters I hate. But I've seen some of it and Ramirez def had an edge. It does not appear to have been a shutout for Whitaker at all. I suggest you take off the nuthugger glasses and try to look at it objectively.
                      Whitaker beat JLR as decisive as the 2nd fight. JLR couldn't land, that was a one-sided fight. One of, if not the biggest robbery in boxing. I'm no longer starting to think you're ******, more like your trying to start ****.

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