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  • markusmod
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    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Not an impressive resume. The most impressive win is stopping Ray Mercer but that comes quite late in Mercer's career.

    I almost fell for the Jimmy Ellis TKO until I clicked the name and the photo made me lol.

    Ok, and of course the win over Foreman II, I guess.

    But he certainly bombed out a lot of bums, fast!

    I wonder what happened to those asthma issues, his excuse, when Wilson bombed him out in three.

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  • Willie Pep 229
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    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Shannon the Cannon holds the record for 1st rd KOs, 37, blowing by 27 by previous title holder Jack Dempsey. Had to pay an injury settlement when he KOed a UMiami defensive tackle in a bar fight.
    Not an impressive resume. The most impressive win is stopping Ray Mercer but that comes quite late in Mercer's career.

    I almost fell for the Jimmy Ellis TKO until I clicked the name and the photo made me lol.

    Ok, and of course the win over Foreman II, I guess.

    But he certainly bombed out a lot of bums, fast!


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  • QueensburyRules
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    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

    He will blow Rampage out in one
    - - Shannon the Cannon holds the record for 1st rd KOs, 37, blowing by 27 by previous title holder Jack Dempsey. Had to pay an injury settlement when he KOed a UMiami defensive tackle in a bar fight.

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  • markusmod
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    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Gonna be in vs Rampage in a Spring 22 Triad Rules Triller.
    He will blow Rampage out in one

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  • QueensburyRules
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    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

    I remember he was in the hospital with numerous facial factures for days. The ref got roasted over not stopping that fight rounds sooner. That was a brutal beating.
    - - Gonna be in vs Rampage in a Spring 22 Triad Rules Triller.

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  • markusmod
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    Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
    I'm surprised noone mentioned Shannon Briggs. He took flush shots from Vitali for 12 solid rounds.
    I remember he was in the hospital with numerous facial factures for days. The ref got roasted over not stopping that fight rounds sooner. That was a brutal beating.

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  • billeau2
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    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

    Anorak knows a lot about that room.
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  • markusmod
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    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    Lol. Marilyn is off the cuff... the "naughty room" lol.
    Anorak knows a lot about that room.
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  • billeau2
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    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

    He's starting to get a better rep than Marilyn
    Lol. Marilyn is off the cuff... the "naughty room" lol.

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  • BattlingNelson
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    Originally posted by them_apples View Post

    Well really a chin is simply how cushioned your brain is, wether that is because of a heavier head, a stronger neck etc etc - but at the end of the day the fighter has to see the punch coming to brace for it.

    Trainers, I think Atlas said a good chin in his experience is mental. Some guys just won't go down.

    in my opinion though, if you learn to take a shot (ride the shot) and in general get used to being hit more (not flush) you can develop a keener sense and rarely get caught with punches you didn't at least see coming and brace for.

    I know its more fun to just assume a fighters chin as a statline, but really as others stated a knockout comes from the brain whiplash. So much of a fighters "good chin" comes from being able to prevent this whiplash, getting hit or not.

    We look at Ali, and the 2 men that hurt him were 190 lbs and 205 lbs. non of the bigger stronger men hurt him at any point. The smaller faster guys caught ali and he didnt see them coming. Frazier accomplished this by getting him tired first and waiting till his reflexes dulled, Cooper was likely underestimated by Ali and caught him flush.

    If we can all agree that Sonny Liston hits harder than Cooper I'm sure. Cooper connected better.
    A sidenote: Sonny Banks was the first to KD Clay. A left hook (as usual) right on the button:






    Banks was 191 lbs.
    Last edited by BattlingNelson; 12-01-2021, 05:59 AM.

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