Warning - Terrible Book - The Regulation of Boxing: A History and Comparative Analysis of Policies Among American States

[Marchegiano]

Pep,

I am using a Mac right now, making it impossible for me to jump between windows and grab links like I am used to doing. My own real area of understanding is Martial Arts. A lot of guys are autodidacts and brilliant, like our own M, who started this thread. If you want a very well thought out perspective on the subject in addition to M, look at Jim Arvantis. The guy has been a martial artist and scholar for Hellinistic martial arts for over 40 years... He did a lot of research on the subject. It is one of the reasons I could have a sense of how brilliant Marge's research actually is.

Plus he looks like he could have been in Kiss!

Thanks bud.

[Marchegiano]

You wrote this with so much anger and frustration you forgot to consider people like me who never heard either word before. LOL

I assuming you are saying this book uses pankration as the origin of (Greek) boxing and doesn't recognize the word pygmachia.

I looked up both words and the information is very direct and clearly defined with much Information on both subjects available.

In fact, thank you, now I am educated on the topic (a little).

I also watched some Pankration World Championship bouts/matches (Which word would be appropriate?) . . . Anyway pankration isn't just akin to MMA, MMA is just pankratin renamed mixed martial arts.

It is so obvious and clear on the Internet(s) that it is hard to believe the author could get it that wrong.

So am I understanding you correctly, did this guy make that big of a mistake and still get published?

Sorry, I did come in hotter than hell

Yes, my eyes saw fire within the first few pages and then as I went on I just got more frustrated and angry with this book and its promises. It covered pankration straight away, then conflates gladiators with boxers. Gladiators are ******, boxers are ritualistic athletes participating in an honor most of them were chosen at birth to participate in and those who were not made that choice at a young age. Boxers boxed their whole lives for the highest honor in their religion. Gladiators fought by whatever means got them through the day....just a huge slap in that face to history, imo. Gladiators' pain and mistreatment shouldn't be washed away like that and boxer's honors should not be disrespected like that.

To put is short, for this sport, what gladiators did was something similar to boxing, as a martial art it can be called boxing, but as a sport, they are not who Broughton was looking at when he made mufflers. It is the pygmachos who inspired Richard Dover and Jack Broughton. Not the movie characters played by Russell Crow.

Did you know the NBA was a response to the NYSAC? Yeah bud, real surface dweller book. How something like ratings between the NBA and NYSAC worked is well beyond this book. Just knowing one is a response to the other is all you need to know, I guess, to call it a study.

The whole book is littered with mistakes. It's ancient and medieval periods would be best left out. Its state periods are a paragraph a piece containing no more info than the opening paragraph of a wiki.

I have no clue how this joker got published, my ass should write a book I guess

[billeau2]

Plus he looks like he could have been in Kiss!

Thanks bud.

You deserve it bro. Research and education imo is the engine that will allow for us to evolve if we are meant to do so.