Bob Arum Reveals 50/50 Contract Sent By Mayweather for Pacquiao Fight

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Listen to you the anti-semite trying to inject race into this. Like your alt Travesty once said, put up or shut up! You can't even put in any work on a thread, all you do is sniff Travesty's balls and follow him around to cheerlead him.

I've put in enough work on Floyd vs Pacquiao threads to last a lifetime.

It's nice to just be a spectator and enjoy seeing cold, hard facts being used to destroy weak arguments.

[Anthony342]

GhostofDempsey hijacked a thread to talk about this, so it's not fair to continue with his shenanigans there. I welcome him here so he can discuss Bob Arum's quotation:





Apparently, he believes Arum is lying and that there was a secret scheme between Mayweather, Kevin Iole (who also saw the contract), and Bob Arum to lie about the existence of this contract to undermine Pacquiao. I'd love to hear his reasoning for this. Have at it!

In a nutshell, I think you're both right. That it was both Mayweather and Pacquiao's fault for the fight not happening sooner. We have the direct quote from Mayweather in 2015 saying essentially that he delayed the fight so that they'd both be paid more an on the other hand, 5-6 years later, suddenly Manny was no longer afraid of any needles and had no problem with giving a sample of blood at any time before the fight. The fact that Mayweather openly admitted that to the press means that if Pacquiao had agreed to all terms, Floyd would've just come up with another excuse/roadblock to not make the fight happen a lot sooner. Manny couldn't just agree though, that would probably make him look weak, since he was the other to star at the time. So he had to negotiate a little. Once you go back and forth enough times on cutoffs and money splits, should have just signed to make the fight happen.

What is it Ali once said? If you're undefeated then you didn't fight everyone right? I'd also add you didn't fight them at their best.

[travestyny]

In a nutshell, I think you're both right. That it was both Mayweather and Pacquiao's fault for the fight not happening sooner. We have the direct quote from Mayweather in 2015 saying essentially that he delayed the fight so that they'd both be paid more an on the other hand, 5-6 years later, suddenly Manny was no longer afraid of any needles and had no problem with giving a sample of blood at any time before the fight. The fact that Mayweather openly admitted that to the press means that if Pacquiao had agreed to all terms, Floyd would've just come up with another excuse/roadblock to not make the fight happen a lot sooner. Manny couldn't just agree though, that would probably make him look weak, since he was the other to star at the time. So he had to negotiate a little. Once you go back and forth enough times on cutoffs and money splits, should have just signed to make the fight happen.

What is it Ali once said? If you're undefeated then you didn't fight everyone right? I'd also add you didn't fight them at their best.

I'm going to disagree with this for one reason. If Pacquiao agrees in 2009, the fight would have happened. They went so far as to go to mediation. No one does all of this to waste time. It's not about just one person. There were various professionals involved here. I highly doubt, for example, that Richard Shaeffer was interested in negotiations that purposely went nowhere. You don't have lawyers draft an 8 page contract as detailed as the one mentioned here for no reason and sign on the line for it to be ignored.

A 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff for blood testing was overly reasonable.

[travestyny]

By the way, look who made a return to Spoon's thread that he always refers to. Not to talk on topic. ONLY to talk about me

I guess I made an impression. I'm always on this dude's mind.

Just living rent free in his head.

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[Anthony342]

I'm going to disagree with this for one reason. If Pacquiao agrees in 2009, the fight would have happened. They went so far as to go to mediation. No one does all of this to waste time. It's not about just one person. There were various professionals involved here. I highly doubt, for example, that Richard Shaeffer was interested in negotiations that purposely went nowhere. You don't have lawyers draft an 8 page contract as detailed as the one mentioned here for no reason and sign on the line for it to be ignored.

A 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff for blood testing was overly reasonable.

Just out of curiosity, why that Mayweather quote then? Seems kinda strange.

[travestyny]

Just out of curiosity, why that Mayweather quote then? Seems kinda strange.

I don't know what the exact quotation is. I thought I seen something about him saying he isn't disappointed that it didn't happen because the fight became bigger. But there are various quotations about the fight getting made.

"I knew eventually it would happen, but everything takes time," said Mayweather, who first entered into talks to fight Pacquiao in late 2009 for what was supposed to be an early 2010 bout. "Everything in life is about timing. I have a good team and I waited until the time was right. He waited until the time was right, and the two teams came together and we made the fight happen."

"I think the timing is right now because I'm a lot bigger status-wise than I was," he said. "Status-wise, I'm still growing, but I'm bigger than I was. And I'm pretty sure that Manny Pacquiao, he is bigger, too. I have a lot of fans and he has a lot of fans and the fans around the world have been anticipating the fight for a long time.

"Everybody was talking about it and it didn't happen, and then it started up again and it didn't happen again. They say three strikes and you're out, and I guess the third time is a charm."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/weather/f...qMZ1EsMmu9HjLO

And this one:

I have no regret that the fight didn't happen 5 years ago. I didn't think it was that big then, but it continued to get bigger and bigger. We didn't need to rush anything. This was a difficult fight to make happen, but we made it happen.

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/flo...is-calculated/

All of these quotations are just basically saying that because there was a delay, the fight became bigger. I don't see a problem with that.

There are various quotations of him saying that he was being ducked:

“I would love to fight Manny Pacquiao,” said Mayweather (47-0, 26 knockouts). “We tried to make the fight years ago. We had problems with random blood and urine testing. Like I said, I just want to be on an even playing field. Now he’s in a very tight situation. He’s lost to (Juan Manuel) Marquez, he’s lost to (Timothy) Bradley. Pay-per-view numbers are down, extremely low. So he’s desperate.

“I know that [Pacquiao] is not on my level, the fans would love to see the fight and of course I wanna go out with a ****. So let’s make this fight happen. Manny Pacquiao, Bob Arum, you guys have been ducking us for years.”

https://www.ringtv.com/370437-floyd-...ao-lets-do-it/

And even coming from Golden Boy who was trying to get the fight done. Look at this article which is regarding what was discussed here:

Mayweather camp not giving up on superfight

https://sports.yahoo.com/ki-pacfloyd...ons010810.html

They were certainly trying to make the fight. But it wasn't happening. He's just saying that when the time was right, both sides came together and made the fight.

[Anthony342]

I don't know what the exact quotation is. I thought I seen something about him saying he isn't disappointed that it didn't happen because the fight became bigger. But there are various quotations about the fight getting made.



And this one:



All of these quotations are just basically saying that because there was a delay, the fight became bigger. I don't see a problem with that.

There are various quotations of him saying that he was being ducked:




And even coming from Golden Boy who was trying to get the fight done. Look at this article which is regarding what was discussed here:





They were certainly trying to make the fight. But it wasn't happening. He's just saying that when the time was right, both sides came together and made the fight.

Interesting. Did you see that video of Mayweather saying to Pacquiao he wanted to rematch him? You think it happens? I personally won't believe it unless they're actually across from each other in the ring. Even then, Mayweather would probably want it to just be an exhibition.

[travestyny]

Interesting. Did you see that video of Mayweather saying to Pacquiao he wanted to rematch him? You think it happens? I personally won't believe it unless they're actually across from each other in the ring. Even then, Mayweather would probably want it to just be an exhibition.

Was that a recent video? I haven't seen a recent one, but I can't imagine that Mayweather would be interested in that now. He's been retired and Pacquiao has been active. I don't think he would want to fight an active fighter at this stage. He's looking for easy money exhibition fights.

He is well aware that he's not the same fighter that he used to be. He was aware of that while he was still active. I don't think Manny is either, but Manny has been active. I don't think Mayweather would have any delusions about what he can do against active fighters at the highest level of the sport right now. But who knows....?

[Anthony342]

Was that a recent video? I haven't seen a recent one, but I can't imagine that Mayweather would be interested in that now. He's been retired and Pacquiao has been active. I don't think he would want to fight an active fighter at this stage. He's looking for easy money exhibition fights.

He is well aware that he's not the same fighter that he used to be. He was aware of that while he was still active. I don't think Manny is either, but Manny has been active. I don't think Mayweather would have any delusions about what he can do against active fighters at the highest level of the sport right now. But who knows....?

No, edit. Upon further research, I found the video to be from 2018. I don't usually check the NSB section here, but I saw it on the front page, so I clicked on the topic. I'll try and find it. Don't know how it ended up on the front page for me then.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...match-for-2018

[GhostofDempsey]

I don't know what the exact quotation is. I thought I seen something about him saying he isn't disappointed that it didn't happen because the fight became bigger. But there are various quotations about the fight getting made.



And this one:



All of these quotations are just basically saying that because there was a delay, the fight became bigger. I don't see a problem with that.

There are various quotations of him saying that he was being ducked:




And even coming from Golden Boy who was trying to get the fight done. Look at this article which is regarding what was discussed here:





They were certainly trying to make the fight. But it wasn't happening. He's just saying that when the time was right, both sides came together and made the fight.

All bullshyt from Fraud. Why didn’t he ever show that alleged signed contract Iole claimed to have seen? No photos, no videos? No proof. In fact, why accuse Manny of PED use to begin with? The one fighter everyone was pressuring him to fight and he makes demands that are above and beyond NSAC standards. Hmmmm, wonder why. Oh I know, USADA in his back pocket, gave him a pass for illegal IV. So not only did he admit to marinating fight for five years, he cheated too! Doh!