Bob Arum Reveals 50/50 Contract Sent By Mayweather for Pacquiao Fight

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GhostofDempsey hijacked a thread to talk about this, so it's not fair to continue with his shenanigans there. I welcome him here so he can discuss Bob Arum's quotation:





Apparently, he believes Arum is lying and that there was a secret scheme between Mayweather, Kevin Iole (who also saw the contract), and Bob Arum to lie about the existence of this contract to undermine Pacquiao. I'd love to hear his reasoning for this. Have at it!

I do remember they had a deal done, everything was signed off on - EXCEPT Mayweather's demand for random drug testing.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Iole ranked fiddy as one of the top power brokers in boxing.

Yeah, right!!!

[GhostofDempsey]

Good try.


Yes, after the fight was declared off, Floyd said for all of his opponents from then on, there will be no cut-off for drug testing. Of course the contract was null and void AFTER THE FIGHT WAS OFFICIALLY CALLED OFF. This happened after mediation failed and Arum declared the fight was off.

The mediator had to come out and state that PACQUIAO'S SIDE MADE FALSE STATEMENTS. You conveniently left out this part before what the mediator found:



That's because Pacquiao's team insisted that the mediator made a suggestion of a 24 day cutoff and Mayweather rejected it and walked out. A clear mischaracterization of what happened. That's why he is stating:

1. He did NOT make any suggestion as to what the protocol should be (which Pac's team claimed).
2. There were multiple offers (Not just Pac's team's offer, which they painted it out to be. ie. Mayweather made a 14 day cutoff offer).


Feel free to look at the link and you will find clearly that it said the mediator responded as a result of Pacquiao's team's FALSE RECORD OF WHAT HAPPENED.


You are doing the same thing that Pac's team was doing. Claiming that he walked from a 24 day proposal....but no mention of him offering 14 days.


Again, what it boiled down to was 50/50 and a 14 day cut off. In the end when they fought, Pac accepted 40/60 and 0 day cut off. There should be no more to say about this.



But feel free to talk about Arum's excuses about needing 3 months for a cut to heal, needing to make an outdoor stadium to hold the fight, holding a fake negotiation with himself apparently, choosing Marquez instead of agreeing to negotiate for the fight and exclaiming that the Mayweather fight will "always be there." That can be discussed in another thread though. This thread was about Arum agreeing that the 50/50 contract existed.

It's over now. I'm satisfied the point was proven.

It's not over because you provided a one-sided synopsis of what you think happened according to your sources. Floyd walked away from the negotiations.

"The fight is off, Floyd Mayweather walked away," Arum told the USA Today newspaper in a telephone interview on Wednesday.

You believed Arum when he spoke of a contract agreed to, do you believe him when he says Floyd walked away? Or will you cherry pick that too?

When Manny announced in May of 2010 that he would be willing to submit blood up to 14 days--Floyd said he was taking off the rest of the year and all of 2011--after Manny made that announcement!

The 50/50 contract was never agreed by both parties due to Floyd pushing the Olympic testing. You can go on all day about this contract Iole claims to have seen for himself, but it was an incomplete contract that Floyd added new terms to, which Manny again declined. A contract isn't signed, sealed and delivered until both parties agree upon everything and both parties signed. That isn't what happened.

As I have clearly laid out to you, Floyd delivered one excuse after another to avoid that fight, and never went into a negotiation with any real intentions of making the fight in 2009 or any time until 2015. He himself said he deserved credit for being smart and prolonging that fight, it was bigger in 2015 than it would have been five years earlier.

"Why don't you just say I was smart?" Mayweather said Tuesday, dismissing charges that he had hoped to avoid a fight with Pacquiao until he was left with no choice because of public pressure. "Five years ago this was a $50-million fight for me," Mayweather said, "and a $20-million fight for him."

That's all you need to know right there. An admission he marinated the fight for five years at least.

[GhostofDempsey]

It's very well known.

But GhostofaKlansman will go to any lengths to try to win an argument. At the moment he's buffoonishly trying to convince everyone that Jimmy DeForest, Bob Arum, and Kevin Iole aren't credible sources.

Listen to you the anti-semite trying to inject race into this. Like your alt Travesty once said, put up or shut up! You can't even put in any work on a thread, all you do is sniff Travesty's balls and follow him around to cheerlead him.

[travestyny]

It's not over because you provided a one-sided synopsis of what you think happened according to your sources. Floyd walked away from the negotiations.

"The fight is off, Floyd Mayweather walked away," Arum told the USA Today newspaper in a telephone interview on Wednesday.

You believed Arum when he spoke of a contract agreed to, do you believe him when he says Floyd walked away? Or will you cherry pick that too?

When Manny announced in May of 2010 that he would be willing to submit blood up to 14 days--Floyd said he was taking off the rest of the year and all of 2011--after Manny made that announcement!

The 50/50 contract was never agreed by both parties due to Floyd pushing the Olympic testing. You can go on all day about this contract Iole claims to have seen for himself, but it was an incomplete contract that Floyd added new terms to, which Manny again declined. A contract isn't signed, sealed and delivered until both parties agree upon everything and both parties signed. That isn't what happened.

As I have clearly laid out to you, Floyd delivered one excuse after another to avoid that fight, and never went into a negotiation with any real intentions of making the fight in 2009 or any time until 2015. He himself said he deserved credit for being smart and prolonging that fight, it was bigger in 2015 than it would have been five years earlier.

"Why don't you just say I was smart?" Mayweather said Tuesday, dismissing charges that he had hoped to avoid a fight with Pacquiao until he was left with no choice because of public pressure. "Five years ago this was a $50-million fight for me," Mayweather said, "and a $20-million fight for him."

That's all you need to know right there. An admission he marinated the fight for five years at least.

LMAO. Didn't you just quote about the mediator...and conveniently left out that the mediator had to correct Pacquiao's teams' false rendition of what happened?


We agree that Pacquiao turned down 50/50 and a 14 day cut-off, right? Right? If you want to keep this going like a...what do you usually term it as...a "scorned female," then answer the question. If not, I don't see any reason for this to continue.

[GhostofDempsey]

LMAO. Didn't you just quote about the mediator...and conveniently left out that the mediator had to correct Pacquiao's teams' false rendition of what happened?


We agree that Pacquiao turned down 50/50 and a 14 day cut-off, right? Right? If you want to keep this going like a...what do you usually term it as...a "scorned female," then answer the question. If not, I don't see any reason for this to continue.

We do not agree. You said Iole saw a signed 50/50 contract after all terms were agreed upon and Manny still declined. That was your original position. That is not what happened. The 14 day cutoff came later on in mediation. Floyd refused a 24 day cutoff and walked off. A couple of weeks later he moved the goa post and said testing up until day of the fight, which he knew damn well would never fly.

Like I said, he insists he deserved credit for postponing the fight for at least five years to make a more lucrative fight, insists we should call him "smart" for doing that. Straight from the duckers mouth.

[travestyny]

We do not agree. You said Iole saw a signed 50/50 contract after all terms were agreed upon and Manny still declined. That was your original position. That is not what happened. The 14 day cutoff came later on in mediation. Floyd refused a 24 day cutoff and walked off. A couple of weeks later he moved the goa post and said testing up until day of the fight, which he knew damn well would never fly.

Like I said, he insists he deserved credit for postponing the fight for at least five years to make a more lucrative fight, insists we should call him "smart" for doing that. Straight from the duckers mouth.

Bob Arum himself said all terms were agreed to. You have the quotation.


Of course the 14 cay cutoff came later, but not in mediation. There was supposed to be no cut-off....which is what Pacquaio eventually accepted 14 days actually came before mediation. Pacquiao wanted 30 days. A whopping 30 days!!!!


So Pacquiao turned down 50/50 and a 14 day cut off, right? Right? Even if you (falsely) claim it came up in mediation...then Pacquaio declined 50/50 and 14 days. Correct? lol

[GhostofDempsey]

Bob Arum himself said all terms were agreed to. You have the quotation.


Of course the 14 cay cutoff came later, but not in mediation. There was supposed to be no cut-off....which is what Pacquaio eventually accepted 14 days actually came before mediation. Pacquiao wanted 30 days. A whopping 30 days!!!!


So Pacquiao turned down 50/50 and a 14 day cut off, right? Right? Even if you (falsely) claim it came up in mediation...then Pacquaio declined 50/50 and 14 days. Correct? lol

That is not a full quote and not in full context. Arum also said Mayweather walked away from negotiations. You believe him when you think you found something that supports your agenda. Next!

Manny never accepted no-cut off. That's why he didn't sign the contract! 14 days never made it into the contract because Manny wanted 24 days. Floyd walked. Then changed it back to no-cut off. Flip-flip-duck. He even admits it, straight from Floyd's mouth!!! LOL.

[travestyny]

That is not a full quote and not in full context. Arum also said Mayweather walked away from negotiations. You believe him when you think you found something that supports your agenda. Next!

Manny never accepted no-cut off. That's why he didn't sign the contract! 14 days never made it into the contract because Manny wanted 24 days. Floyd walked. Then changed it back to no-cut off. Flip-flip-duck. He even admits it, straight from Floyd's mouth!!! LOL.

Uh....the mediator was the one who told us Bob Arum wasn't telling the entire truth. LMAO. I do believe the mediator.

We know he didn't accept the cutoff. That's the point. He rejected 50/50 and 14 days, didn't he? It didn't change back to no cut-off until after the mediation was done. The offer that Pacquiao rejected was 14 days...offered before and during the mediation.


I think we are saying the same thing. That Pacquiao rejected 50/50 and a 14 day cut-off. Thank you for agreeing.

[GhostofDempsey]

Uh....the mediator was the one who told us Bob Arum wasn't telling the entire truth. LMAO. I do believe the mediator.

We know he didn't accept the cutoff. That's the point. He rejected 50/50 and 14 days, didn't he? It didn't change back to no cut-off until after the mediation was done. The offer that Pacquiao rejected was 14 days...offered before and during the mediation.


I think we are saying the same thing. That Pacquiao rejected 50/50 and a 14 day cut-off. Thank you for agreeing.

The mediator said BOTH sides were being untruthful. We don't agree, because Manny never agreed to all terms of the contract, which you insist Iole saw this 8-page contract (did he actually have access to read each page? not likely!), and that Manny initially agreed to everything and then refused to sign. That doesn't make sense.