Bob Arum Reveals 50/50 Contract Sent By Mayweather for Pacquiao Fight

[travestyny]

You have been citing Iole's claim he saw a signed 2009 contract. I just posted an article that showed Floyd announced Olympic drug testing on 12 December. He could not have possibly signed a COMPLETED contract on or before 11 December 2009, and then announced the next day that Olympic drug testing is part of the deal. That is why Manny did not sign the contract, he disputed the Olympic testing. By 30 December he files a lawsuit for defamation. They did not renegotiate again until mid-2010.

We already went over this. That's when it was revealed to the public. I just showed you that Freddie Roach knew about it at least on Dec. 11th and you are ducking it. Do I really need to post the video again? I can even take a screen cap of the date if that helps you figure this out.


Once again, the drug testing protocol is A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH USADA. That is not the main fight contract.


We know Pacquiao disputed the Olympic testing. They went to mediation over the drug testing which is when they failed to compromise with Pac wanting 24 days and Mawyeather agreeing to 14 days cutoff. All other terms, in the words of even Bob Arum, were agreed upon.



So we agree that Pacquiao passed up 50/50 and 14 days cutoff....to take 40/60 and 0 day cutoff. Right?

[GhostofDempsey]

LMAO. What the hell. Have you fallen and hurt your head. I don't even know what you are trying to say at this point. I posted the link to the article...but in case you are confused, I'll do it again.

What are you trying to say? I already told you, the original 50/50 contract was disputed by Pacquiao for Olympic testing. To say that Floyd agreed to a 50/50 purse split when he added Olympic testing afterward is not a done deal. It's a one sided goal post move. That was part of Arum's frustration, he accused Floyd and Schaefer of harassment. Terms had been agreed upon and then they toss in the blood testing. Floyd never intended to fight Manny for 50/50, and Schaefer said as much.

You can argue this back and forth with gaslighting all you want. The facts are, Floyd did not offer a 50/50 contract without trying to add more demands. Floyd himself said it would not be a 50/50 fight. Schaefer said he never sent that contract over. Not for 50/50.

Bottom line, by the time Manny agreed to full testing in 2011, Floyd went into hiding for the next four years full of excuses. Why else would he insist he deserves credit for being the smart one when asked why it took five years to get the fight signed?

This is in line with Floyd's M.O., avoid or duck an elite fighter in their prime and then catch them on the downside while they still have a big name. Or catch them on the way up before they reach their prime. Manny is about to fight a young prime Lion, the guy at 43 who agrees to fight a prime welter, is not afraid of fighting Floyd while he was at his prime.

[travestyny]

What are you trying to say? I already told you, the original 50/50 contract was disputed by Pacquiao for Olympic testing. To say that Floyd agreed to a 50/50 purse split when he added Olympic testing afterward is not a done deal. It's a one sided goal post move. That was part of Arum's frustration, he accused Floyd and Schaefer of harassment. Terms had been agreed upon and then they toss in the blood testing. Floyd never intended to fight Manny for 50/50, and Schaefer said as much.

You can argue this back and forth with gaslighting all you want. The facts are, Floyd did not offer a 50/50 contract without trying to add more demands. Floyd himself said it would not be a 50/50 fight. Schaefer said he never sent that contract over. Not for 50/50.

Bottom line, by the time Manny agreed to full testing in 2011, Floyd went into hiding for the next four years full of excuses. Why else would he insist he deserves credit for being the smart one when asked why it took five years to get the fight signed?

This is in line with Floyd's M.O., avoid or duck an elite fighter in their prime and then catch them on the downside while they still have a big name. Or catch them on the way up before they reach their prime. Manny is about to fight a young prime Lion, the guy at 43 who agrees to fight a prime welter, is not afraid of fighting Floyd while he was at his prime.

OMG. Try to follow.


He didn't add it afterward. It was part of the contract. That's why Pacquiao didn't sign it. The exact protocol for drug testing would be done in a contract with USADA.

You keep trying to say he added it a day afterward when I just proved to you that Freddie Roach knew about it at least on Dec. 11th. I've said that to you about 3 times now and showed you the damn video. Do you want the link to the video again? Look at the date:

https://********/jGd8r7G7Mxo

Roach also said they agreed to it. Look at the video.


We already know that Pacquiao didn't agree due to drug testing, so what is your point of trying to make a big deal about this as if we don't know that. They went to mediation. The offer that Pacquiao turned down for the drug testing details was a 14 day cut-off.


So we agree that he turned down a 50/50 split and 14 day cut-off, and later took 40/60 and 0 day cut-off. Correct?

[GhostofDempsey]

We already went over this. That's when it was revealed to the public. I just showed you that Freddie Roach knew about it at least on Dec. 11th and you are ducking it. Do I really need to post the video again? I can even take a screen cap of the date if that helps you figure this out.


Once again, the drug testing protocol is A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH USADA. That is not the main fight contract.


We know Pacquiao disputed the Olympic testing. They went to mediation over the drug testing which is when they failed to compromise with Pac wanting 24 days and Mawyeather agreeing to 14 days cutoff. All other terms, in the words of even Bob Arum, were agreed upon.



So we agree that Pacquiao passed up 50/50 and 14 days cutoff....to take 40/60 and 0 day cutoff. Right?

Freddie Roach isn't sure at that point, and he's saying talks of Olympic style drug testing are being talked about, he says "yeah sure" but no specific terms are discussed. Blood testing was first brought into the conversation as early as September 2009 when Floyd Sr. accused Manny of being on steroids. Manny declined testing up unto weight ins, which is what Floyd wanted. That's where it breaks down and Manny declines to sign. Floyd's official announcement of Olympic testing isn't announced until December 12th. You have still not produced this contract you claim existed by Iole and Floyd. If it did exist, Floyd would have had it recorded or photographed and posted all over the media and internet. Whatever contract was floating out there was still under negotiation. You are trying to make it sound like it was all a done deal and Floyd agreed to 50/50 split with no additional terms or conditions. That's not what happened.

[GhostofDempsey]

OMG. Try to follow.


He didn't add it afterward. It was part of the contract. That's why Pacquiao didn't sign it. The exact protocol for drug testing would be done in a contract with USADA.

You keep trying to say he added it a day afterward when I just proved to you that Freddie Roach knew about it at least on Dec. 11th. I've said that to you about 3 times now and showed you the damn video. Do you want the link to the video again? Look at the date:

https://********/jGd8r7G7Mxo

Roach also said they agreed to it. Look at the video.


We already know that Pacquiao didn't agree due to drug testing, so what is your point of trying to make a big deal about this as if we don't know that. They went to mediation. The offer that Pacquiao turned down for the drug testing details was a 14 day cut-off.


So we agree that he turned down a 50/50 split and 14 day cut-off, and later took 40/60 and 0 day cut-off. Correct?

There as no 14 day cutoff proposal 2009. Floyd insisted on full random testing right up to prior day weigh in. The 60/40 zero day cutoff was agreed to in 2011 by Manny.

December 2009: Pacquiao Strikes Out on Drug Testing

Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports reported in 2012 that Mayweather and Pacquiao came within a whisker of settling their differences with a 2010 fight. All the details were worked out, including the date, a 50-50 purse split, who would receive top billing on promotional materials and the order in which the men would enter the ring and be announced to the crowd.

But it all came apart over Pacquiao's objections to Mayweather's demands for strict, random blood testing, which promoter Bob Arum claimed, per David Mayo of MLive.com, was to be implemented right up to the weigh in

[travestyny]

There as no 14 day cutoff proposal 2009. Floyd insisted on full random testing right up to prior day weigh in. The 60/40 zero day cutoff was agreed to in 2011 by Manny.

December 2009: Pacquiao Strikes Out on Drug Testing

Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports reported in 2012 that Mayweather and Pacquiao came within a whisker of settling their differences with a 2010 fight. All the details were worked out, including the date, a 50-50 purse split, who would receive top billing on promotional materials and the order in which the men would enter the ring and be announced to the crowd.

But it all came apart over Pacquiao's objections to Mayweather's demands for strict, random blood testing, which promoter Bob Arum claimed, per David Mayo of MLive.com, was to be implemented right up to the weigh in

The mediation was for the fight described in the contract sent on Dec. 11th. That's why the mediation was January 7th, 2010.

Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_...in%20a%20round.

It's not even hard to follow. You are purposely making this more difficult than it has to be. Koncz and Roach both initially said they had no problem with the testing. They definitely knew about it. And I showed Roach knew about it before you claimed it came about. What else do you want?


Can we now agree that Manny turned down 50/50 and 14 days for 40/60 and 0 days?

[GhostofDempsey]

The mediation was for the fight described in the contract sent on Dec. 11th. That's why the mediation was January 7th, 2010.




It's not even hard to follow. You are purposely making this more difficult than it has to be. Koncz and Roach both initially said they had no problem with the testing. They definitely knew about it. And I showed Roach knew about it before you claimed it came about. What else do you want?


Can we now agree that Manny turned down 50/50 and 14 days for 40/60 and 0 days?

There was no agreement to 14 days prior, not in 2009! It was testing up until weigh in, which is the evening prior to the fight. You're frustrated because you are trying to prove something that didn't happen. Maybe if you had a copy of this so-called contract that was completely agreed upon by both parties it would help your cause. Do you have the contract?

[travestyny]

There was no agreement to 14 days prior, not in 2009! It was testing up until weigh in, which is the evening prior to the fight. You're frustrated because you are trying to prove something that didn't happen. Maybe if you had a copy of this so-called contract that was completely agreed upon by both parties it would help your cause. Do you have the contract?

You still aren't following. I'm not frustrated at all. I'm laughing at all the maneuvering you are doing. The contract called for olympic style testing. The exact protocol would be done in USADA's contract. Pacquaio had an issue with the testing. Yes, of course it was full random testing. At least Koncz and Roach said it was no issue. Later, Pacquaio comes back after his conference with Arum (surprise surprise) and says this was an issue.

No problem. They go to mediation. The protocol for testing would be changed to a 14 day cutoff, which should be plenty of time to recover from giving 2 tbsps of blood (especially since no one else needed such a cut-off). Pacquiao still refused.


So once again, we agree that Pacquiao declined a 50/50 split and 14 day cuttoff for 40/60 and 0 day cutoff, right?


Bob Arum certainly hinted that he had the contract, unless he gave that quotation with his balls in his hand. Why would he lie? That's the original premise of this thread and you won't answer...because you can't because you know it makes no sense.


Pretty sure we are done here. You know what's up. Point proven.

[GhostofDempsey]

You still aren't following. I'm not frustrated at all. I'm laughing at all the maneuvering you are doing. The contract called for olympic style testing. The exact protocol would be done in USADA's contract. Pacquaio had an issue with the testing. Yes, of course it was full random testing. At least Koncz and Roach said it was no issue. Later, Pacquaio comes back after his conference with Arum (surprise surprise) and says this was an issue.

No problem. They go to mediation. The protocol for testing would be changed to a 14 day cutoff, which should be plenty of time to recover from giving 2 tbsps of blood (especially since no one else needed such a cut-off). Pacquiao still refused.


So once again, we agree that Pacquiao declined a 50/50 split and 14 day cuttoff for 40/60 and 0 day cutoff, right?


Bob Arum certainly hinted that he had the contract, unless he gave that quotation with his balls in his hand. Why would he lie? That's the original premise of this thread and you won't answer...because you can't because you know it makes no sense.


Pretty sure we are done here. You know what's up. Point proven.

When was 14 day testing agreed upon by Floyd? What date?

[travestyny]

When was 14 day testing agreed upon by Floyd? What date?

LMAO. Dude, do you read what I post to you. Go back, look at when the mediation began, and when it ended. That should give you the timeframe. It's not rocket science.


I'm pretty sure we are done.