Was Bill Richmond actually bad for black boxing?

[Anthony342]

lol. When I looked him up, I wondered about that myself. They did say the dude was pretty muscular with huge shoulders :P


By the way, I was wondering if, as a Wrestling fan, have you ever heard of Doc Krone. Apparently he was the top wrestling promoter in Chicago in the 1920's - 30's.

Nope. But I heard of Jess McMahon, George Hackenschmidt and Frank Gotch, as well as promoter Toots Mondt, who made scripted matches popular.

[travestyny]

Nope. But I heard of Jess McMahon, George Hackenschmidt and Frank Gotch, as well as promoter Toots Mondt, who made scripted matches popular.

Yep. We discussed Jess a bit before. He and his brother were to be the promoters for the Jeannette/ Jack Johnson fight that fell through.

[Anthony342]

Yep. We discussed Jess a bit before. He and his brother were to be the promoters for the Jeannette/ Jack Johnson fight that fell through.

Right and Primo Carnera later got into pro wrestling, as did Mayweather and Tyson Fury, but not for as long.

[travestyny]

Right and Primo Carnera later got into pro wrestling, as did Mayweather and Tyson Fury, but not for as long.

One more question (I don't want to divert from the topic here).

Maybe you might know. What was the most famous wrestling match that was considered purely wrestling (as in without the dramatics of the WWF days. Like when it was straight up competition in the 20's). Some names I saw popping up was Ed "Strangler" Lewis and Stanislaus Zybysko (and his brother apparently, Wladek).

[Anthony342]

One more question (I don't want to divert from the topic here).

Maybe you might know. What was the most famous wrestling match that was considered purely wrestling (as in without the dramatics of the WWF days. Like when it was straight up competition in the 20's). Some names I saw popping up was Ed "Strangler" Lewis and Stanislaus Zybysko (and his brother apparently, Wladek).

Sounds right. Vontell would probably know better though about that time period. I'd say Steamboat-Savage 87 or Steamboat Flair 1989. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig in 1991 is a wrestling clinic too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY2qMf7m8JI

[travestyny]

Sounds right. Vontell would probably know better though about that time period. I'd say Steamboat-Savage 87 or Steamboat Flair 1989. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig in 1991 is a wrestling clinic too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY2qMf7m8JI

Ah yea. Steamboat-Savage brings back good memories. Good stuff!

[ShoulderRoll]

Any relation to Bobby Lashley?

That would be interesting if there was a connection there. Weirder things have happened.

It turns out LL Cool J is related to both John Henry Lewis and Thomas Molyneaux.