Fantasy Late 80's/Early 90's Middleweight Tournament

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  • JAB5239
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    #11
    Originally posted by princemanspoper
    Roy Jones never became a factor in the middleweight division until 1992 and even then he wasn't much of a contender,By which time Toney was moving up to 168 and Mccallum was moving up to 175 and Kalambay and graham were faded fighters by such a time.Jones had his one win over Hopkins which ended his run in the middleweight division apart from a brief title defense against thomas tate a year later.

    More ignorance. Toney and McCallum fought for the IBF middleweight title in 1992. Between 1991 and 92 Kalambay had a SD loss to McCallum and wins over Graham and Collins. Not to shabby for a so called faded fighter.

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    • Joe2608
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      #12
      You could add those other fighters in if you wanted, but if we put Roy Jones in then he will win the poll by a landslide, and he came onto the scene late when these guys were moving up or past their career best.
      Kalambay could come into the equation, he beat McCallum via a UD in 1988.

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      • mickey malone
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        #13
        My money would be on a McCallum Toney final, with Mike taking a MD.. Don't see Jackson or McClellan sparking either of them.. I'd say Jackson gets stopped by all 3, with McClellan losing by DC to both..

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        • princemanspoper
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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          More ignorance. Toney and McCallum fought for the IBF middleweight title in 1992. Between 1991 and 92 Kalambay had a SD loss to McCallum and wins over Graham and Collins. Not to shabby for a so called faded fighter.
          Both Toney and Mccallum fought their last fight at 160 in august of 1992 around which time Jones was still wasn't that highly ranked a contender.Graham was also a faded fight by that time and Steve Collins was still a unheralded fringe contender by then and my best guess is that you've never seen one of the three fights mentioned

          Nice attempt smartass

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          • JAB5239
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            #15
            Originally posted by princemanspoper
            Both Toney and Mccallum fought their last fight at 160 in august of 1992 around which time Jones was still wasn't that highly ranked a contender.
            Wrong again. Toney had at least 1 more middleweight fight after McCallum. Thats not really the point though. Point is you try to get by with false information. Blatant lies.

            Graham was also a faded fight by that time and Steve Collins was still a unheralded fringe contender by then and my best guess is that you've never seen one of the three fights mentioned
            Stevie Collins had been in the top 10 since late 1989, early 1990.

            Nice attempt smartass
            Attempt? Im not attempting anything, just exposing you as a liar with little knowledge who tries to twist things to suit his agenda.

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            • princemanspoper
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              #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Wrong again. Toney had at least 1 more middleweight fight after McCallum. Thats not really the point though. Point is you try to get by with false information. Blatant lies.
              Wrong again Am I? Then please do point out the date and opponent of one James Toney's other supposed fight at 160 after his rematch with Mike McCallum in august of 1992


              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Stevie Collins had been in the top 10 since late 1989, early 1990.
              Collins wasn't in the top ten from 1991-1994

              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Im not attempting anything.

              Story of your life

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              • Emon723
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                #17
                Michael Nunn should be in there instead of McClellan. Nunn, McCallum, Toney and Jackson were the best middleweights in the early 90s, Roy Jones and the G-Man would later followed.

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                • Joe2608
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                  #18
                  By the way i voted for James Toney. Not really a fan of Toney personally but i don't think Jackson beats any of them as he was more of a light middleweight, plus these type of fighters (tough, powerful and well conditioned) are like Jackson's kryptonite. McCallum drew with and was beaten by Toney (albeit in close fights) but i don't see him beating Toney. McClellan for me has the best chance of winning along with Toney, but i think Toney edges it in the final fight with a decision victory over McClellan.

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                  • TheGreatA
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                    #19
                    1992 Ring ratings:

                    1. Julian Jackson
                    2. James Toney
                    3. Reggie Johnson
                    4. Roy Jones Jr.
                    5. Mike McCallum
                    6. Sumbu Kalambay
                    7. Gerald McClellan
                    8. Lamar Parks
                    9. Bernard Hopkins
                    10. Thomas Tate

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #20
                      I think this would always go down to McCallum vs Toney, and we already saw how those fights went. You can basically score their first two fights any way you want to, either for McCallum or for Toney, they were that close.

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